Sundazed and JSP

[jt. r]

intend to bankrupt me.

i've seen this debate elsewhere, but i'm curious to hear from a less curmudgeonly sampling. how do you feel about the Sundazed reissues of so many *classic* records on 180 gram vinyl? i think it's great since i wouldn't have ever been able to find most of these recordings inexpensively anywhere. Some others defend their searching and digging for treasures. I don't think reissues take anything away from that but maybe I'm wrong.

JSP on the other hand is specializing in commodity fetishism. How many boxsets can I get of blues greats? I already have the Charley Patton and have tried to get the Blind Willie McTell. Anyone else buy any of these yet?

[tinobeat]

but mainly its because there's too much I want to buy and can't decide where to start. Once I start, though, I'm sure Sundazed would leave me broke.

- the Bob Dylan mono reissues
- the Stooges reissues
- the Otis Redding Reissues
- that Remains record
- OAR by Skip Spence

that's just a small sampling of the Sundazed shit I'm salivating over but haven't brought myself around to buying.

if anyone wants to buy me gifts, though, its a good place to start.

I know nothing about JSP... sorry...


what I want to know:
why is nobody doing any sort of reissues of the Beatles old records in mono. Its stupid, you can't find a mono copy of revolver or rubber soul for less than $50 and its not worth that much. I'm sure the surviving Beatles have a tight-ass grip on that stuff, but come on, give us some nice vinyl copies of those records...

[Funk]

Originally posted by tinobeat


- that Remains record

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what I want to know:
why is nobody doing any sort of reissues of the Beatles old records in mono. Its stupid, you can't find a mono copy of revolver or rubber soul for less than $50 and its not worth that much. I'm sure the surviving Beatles have a tight-ass grip on that stuff, but come on, give us some nice vinyl copies of those records...

Get A Session with the Remains (a cheaper, non-180 gm LP) first. It's deadly!

I'm pretty sure I saw a mono reissue of Revolver a couple of months back. I believe it was British in origin, and about $20 US. It had one of those "imported by EMI Canada" stickers on it, so I'd have no idea how you'd get in in Boston, other than driving up north. Maybe I should verify this, though. There's definately a vinyl reissue of it.

As for the original question, how do I feel about Sundazed doing vinyl reissues? Personally, I'm fine with it. There's a market for it, they're fulfilling it.

[jt. r]

JSP are doing all the rootsy stuff: carter family boxes, all the blind so and sos, and so on. really cheap ways to backdoor to the revenant stuff. (anyone else hip to the revenant *crime* comp?)

anyone else heard the james chance box?

as for sundazed: i got their catalogue today since the clerk was gracious enough to hand it over after i scored a young marble giants cd used. it's amazing what's on offer. i'm selling off my so-so cds just to buy great records. what a wonder! i hope a lot of people catch on. i'm glad i got a record player so i can take advantage of this.

[Funk]

Originally posted by jt. r
(anyone else hip to the revenant *crime* comp?)

anyone else heard the james chance box?


Did that Crime comp ever come out? I remember John Fahey talking about it, but once he died I thought it was scrapped.

I haven't heard the James Chance box, but I own copies of Buy, Off White and Sax Maniac, so the box didn't really appeal to me. Seeing how you're into vinyl reissues, Munster Records released 220gm vinyl versions of those three albums, and 4 Men with Beards released 180gm pressings of the first two LPs, and ZE reissued a "Contort Yourself" 12" (to keep this thread within the realm of Matador Records, a former Matador artist also has a James Chance tribute 12" coming out on ZE).

www.munster-records.com/
http://www.buyrunt.com/4men.html (the two James Chance records aren't listed, but they have tons of other great LPs as well)
http://www.zerecords.com/homepage.php

[jt. r]

Originally posted by Funk
Did that Crime comp ever come out? I remember John Fahey talking about it, but once he died I thought it was scrapped.

i read on agonyshorthand that it is indeed coming out, though not as lavish as once anticipated. it's all gonna be shoehorned into two cds or something along those lines.

james chance stuff: yeah, i heard about those vinyl reissues. isn't anything over 200 grams a little severe. someone told me that one of those platters has been put out on cream colored vinyl. it sounds beautiful!

does anyone know if Earmark (the label dropping all the kinks and black sabbath records) has it's own website? i've check the sanctuary records group site but to no avail.

[Miss Tasty Princess]

Originally posted by jt. r
i read on agonyshorthand that it is indeed coming out, though not as lavish as once anticipated. it's all gonna be shoehorned into two cds or something along those lines.Are we talking Crime, the San Francisco punk band, or crime, the social ill?

[jt. r]

Originally posted by Mr.HCI
Are we talking Crime, the San Francisco punk band, or crime, the social ill?

i'm hoping that they could do a Philadelphia comp for 1987, the last time Philly led the country in murders. Nearly twenty years later, with the crime rate through the floor, and every local and state politician is running mini-Goldwater campaigns for law and order.

i dunno a lot about the Crime scene, but i'm excited when comprehensive comps are released so i can dig in and get my fill.

thanks mr. hci for clarifying matters.

[Funk]

Originally posted by jt. r
james chance stuff: yeah, i heard about those vinyl reissues. isn't anything over 200 grams a little severe. someone told me that one of those platters has been put out on cream colored vinyl. it sounds beautiful!

does anyone know if Earmark (the label dropping all the kinks and black sabbath records) has it's own website? i've check the sanctuary records group site but to no avail.

Severe?! It's MUNSTER vinyl! (by the way, it's actually cheaper to buy the 2LP 220gm collection of the first two James Chance records than the individual 180gm ones).

The only way to know what's actually on Earmark is by going to a site like Forced Exposure and seeing what's been released. The label responsible for manufacturing those LPs, Get Back/Abraxas, have nothing about them on their website, but the site is kind of out of date.

[jt. r]

Originally posted by Funk
Severe?! It's MUNSTER vinyl! (by the way, it's actually cheaper to buy the 2LP 220gm collection of the first two James Chance records than the individual 180gm ones).

Do you know the name of the two LP collection? I asked about it and the shopowner looked askance and asked his clerks, but they don't have it.

[Funk]

James Chance & the Contortions Buy/Off White, MR-230. It's also available as 2 LPs on 1 CD.

I just noticed that Munster's 220gm version of Sax Maniac has songs not on the original LP. I wonder if the 2LP is the same....

[mygrassisblue]

Sundazed is a great, great label. They are one of the only reissue houses that take great care to keep the recording fully analog (with their own remastering studio) as well as the artwork accurate. Some labels simply blow up the cover from the cd- check the recent 'Electric Warrior' and 'Yes Album' LPs by previously prestigous Rhino. Incidentally, neither of those albums are too hard to find second hand anyway. Another great reissue label is Akarma, out of Italy. They did 'Vincebus Eruptum' with the raised silver and blue cover exactly like the original. They also did the first two Big Star albums which are legitimately in short demand- I paid a LOT for my original #1 Record- and still bought the reissue just to have it around.

Simply Vinyl has been doing reissues for years and while they're very pricy, this is top of the line stuff. They're doing the Nick Drake albums now, you're NOT going to find those original LPs.

4 Men With Beards is a start-up label that busted out a 'Marquee Moon' LP which was pretty cool.

And finally, whoever put out the My Bloody Valentine reissues did a pretty nice job as far as I can tell without having actually heard one. Another couple of records that I paid a good amount for originals.

As for Beatles monos, they're pricy in their Mono format... and hopefully in decent shape. They always sell at $30, $40, $50 so I mean.. that's what they're worth. Even though they made tons and tons of LPs in the 60s and beyond the first issues are naturally going to be worth something. As for reissues, I'm afraid there's some seriously tight-assed forces at work when it comes to the Beatles catalogue- which is why we haven't even seen remastered CDs of the normal albums since 1987. Isn't it weird that CDs have been around for 20 years?

EMI Records still cranks out new (stereo) Beatles LPs which, incidentally, sound terrible. With a message on the back stating how it's a new digital mastered... record. Ouch.

[jt. r]

how about all the psych reissues on sundazed? if what ugly things says is true, then they're all good. is it possible to describe records in more superlative terms than the reviews in this year's issue of Ugly Things?

nevermind that: does anyone know who's putting out all the audiophile reissues of the ramones stuff? i can't find it anywhere on the internet, including forced exposure. i guess it's easier to avoid licensing problems if it's all under the radar.

buyer beware: the wire "chairs missing" reissue (not to mention many others) are on really flimsy stock.

[maroonwalrus]

I picked up the 1978 Harvest pressing of "Chairs Missing" on vinyl last year actually - paid somewhere between 5 and 8 dollars for it, and it was in fine condition. I've seen "Pink Flag" and "154" a few times in used shops lately too... it's probably worth just searching out the original vinyl pressings, because they don't appear to be all that rare.

With respect to Sundazed, those vinyl reissues of the first two Stooges albums look really great - they should reissue the "Raw Power" vinyl as well, considering that what's available now, while 180 grams, is still the really thin Bowie mix. Iggy's remix has far more punch to it, in my opinion.

[Funk]

Originally posted by jt. r

nevermind that: does anyone know who's putting out all the audiophile reissues of the ramones stuff? i can't find it anywhere on the internet, including forced exposure. i guess it's easier to avoid licensing problems if it's all under the radar.

buyer beware: the wire "chairs missing" reissue (not to mention many others) are on really flimsy stock.

Those Ramones reissues have been out for awhile now (since at least early 2000). They're on Scorpio Records, licensed through Rhino Records. The Scorpio reissues always use the original art and labels (unlike Sundazed, who slap their logos on the reissues), so some distributors list them as "Sire" (or whatever the original label was, as Scorpio has reissued a bunch of stuff on Sire, Atlantic, Warner Bros., etc). They don't have a web site.

I have the "Singles Going Steady" LP reissue that came out at the same time as "Chairs Missing", and even though it's flimsy, it sounds like a million bucks.