a ghost is born

[miss understood]

Sorry if this is old news here, but the new Wilco album leaked today, minus one track (perhaps). Not sure yet what to say about it other than that it's yet another entirely unique, challenging, and original piece of music by Wilco, if that says anything.

Anyway, if you'd like to hear it, and have trouble locating it, drop me a line. Cheers.

[TheSadDebaser]

shh!

[blah]

this is the band that signed with the label that fucked them over in the first place right? i saw i'm trying to break your heart and thought the whole thing was silly. they signed with them anyway with only part of their band left and after a major ordeal that only a headache could love. yay wilco! that'll show 'em!

[miss understood]

Sorry, am I not understanding the protocol on this board? Is Wilco like too popular to discuss in its own thread? Apologies if I'm being obtuse, I'm just genuinely unsure how one starts a conversation on a new record of note around here..

[tinobeat]

don't mind them...

though I think SadDebaser might have been facetious.

is that central sq. as in cambridge?

[miss understood]

Aye, it is, sir. Does that make us neighbors?

[TheSadDebaser]

well, the idea was that you're talking about a leaked record on a record label's message board where the subject could conceivably be touchy.


but yeah, it was a joke.

ha ha.




ha.

[tinobeat]

Originally posted by miss understood
Aye, it is, sir. Does that make us neighbors?

indeed.. I live more in the inman/kendall region, about a 10 min walk from central.

[two llamas]

this record is fantastic.

[fuzztony]

Originally posted by miss understood
Sorry, am I not understanding the protocol on this board? Is Wilco like too popular to discuss in its own thread?

Nah, there's a bunch of Wilco appreciators/fans here.

I'd personally feel weirder downloading a leaked album from a band I really like, than one I'm just curious about. But then again, fully aware of the fact that many will buy the record anyway when it came out, and potentially help sales with word of mouth factor. So politics, schmolitics.

So...uhhh, where's that link? ...Just kidding, am sure to hear it soon enough.

[bitterfruit]

They want it leaked. They probably leaked it themselves. I actually wondered if the big "Time Warner screwed Wilco" story was completely fabricated as well. Maybe I've seen one too many Oliver Stone films.

[two llamas]

after what happened with Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, there is no way Wilco is too concerned about the new one leaking. Foxtrot was available more than a year before it's release and it still being praised left and right now, years after it's release.

[fuzztony]

Originally posted by bitterfruit
They probably leaked it themselves.

You think so? Of course, they'll never admit it, but sounds plausible. It would have to drive up interest for the release date. Unless the album's shite, which Wilco rarely, if ever, is.

The Wilco Marketing Machine Conspiracy Theory Horror Show, coming to screens near you.

[Futureman]

Just give us a link!

[miss understood]

Hah. I suspect posting a public link would (understandably) be looked down upon by this board's admins, so I'm not sure that's the best idea. Like I said above, tho, feel free to drop me a line via email or PM and I'm happy to help you out.

At any rate, I learned tonite from a source in the Wilco camp that the album (either in full or installments, not sure yet) will be streamed from their Web site starting April 1, so it's safe to say the band doesn't frown on this sort of thing too much.

PS, Tino: I was in your neighborhood today, watching a ($9.25!) movie at the Kendall theater. Are you going to Sun Kil Moon or Broken Social Scene this week by any chance?

[tinobeat]

no, unfortunately not going to either of those.

my shows this week:
Animal Collective tomorrow night (monday night) at the Midway in JP and Greg Davis & Marumari at TT's on Tuesday (maybe), and then my band's playing with Wolf Colonel on wednesday at the Zeitgeist Gallery...

so much to do...

[Patrick]

No links to potentially copyright-infringing material here, please.

Patrick

[earl grey]

so has anyone listened yet? how is it? i've been away and haven't gotten a chance to search it out yet. i sometimes stay away from leaks when i know i'll buy the album anyway, but this one has me very curious.

[earl grey]

so i've given this a couple listens - not enough to form a real opinion, not with an album i have serious expectations for. but initially, i'm a little disappointed with it. its sound is somewhere between 'being there' and 'YHF' but nowhere near as catchy. tweedy can definitely shred, but a lot of the songs are missing the hooks. maybe this is the difference without jay bennett.

we'll see - need to give this one more time. it's also a leak missing one song, which makes me wonder if it's even the final version or if this is like the radiohead leak last year.

[mashuguna]

What was the Wilco "Radiohead" leak last year???

What's you talkin' bout Willis?

[tinobeat]

I think he's talking about when Hail To The Thief was leaked whilst still in the rough mix phase of recording, so Radiohead was bummed cos people were hearing works in progress covered in warts.

the question being, is the new Wilco stuff that's leaked *done* done or did it just escape its cage unfinished..

[earl grey]

Originally posted by tinobeat
I think he's talking about when Hail To The Thief was leaked whilst still in the rough mix phase of recording, so Radiohead was bummed cos people were hearing works in progress covered in warts.

the question being, is the new Wilco stuff that's leaked *done* done or did it just escape its cage unfinished..

exactly.

[blah]

it is true. wilco like sux due to popularity alone. or maybe they're just not that interesting as musicians or people to some folx. take your pick. it's ok though, to have your own opinion and whatnot. someone told me so.

[miss understood]

Nicely put, tino. (What are people's thoughts 'round these parts on Radiohead, anyway? Curious about that.) For what it's worth, according to a handful of people who paid a truly outrageous amount of money (donated to charity, thankfully) to listen to the record at an early listening party at the Wilco loft two weeks or so ago with Mr. Tweedy himself, they are indeed final mixes. Oh and the final track is out there as well. If you can't find it, and are really dying to hear it, drop me a line. :)

[frank]

Wilco is now streaming the album off their website.

http://wilcoworld.net/ghost/index.html

[LARM]

I've gained a whole new respect for Wilco.

This is one of the coolest things I've seen done by a modern artist. Instead of suing their fans for downloading their leaked album they decided to setup a website where people who downloaded it can donate money. So far they've got $5000+ in the first few days. The money is going to a charity called Doctors Without Borders ( http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/ ).

"The impulse to make music is as strong as it ever was... making CDs is not our reason to exist. We're a band because we like to play together, and feel good about playing in front of people, and we've always made our living doing that. That isn't going to change." -Jeff Tweedy

I already respected Wilco after watching the 'I Am Trying To Break Your Heart' dvd and seeing how they would not compromise their music for corporations, but now I absolutely admire Jeff Tweedy for taking these kinds of stands. I donated $10. This is really awesome and certainly helps to prove just how incredibly wrong the RIAA/major labels are in saying music buying is down because of file sharing/downloading.

http://www.justafan.org/

http://pitchforkmedia.com/news/04-04/05.shtml#story3

ps- I quite love A Ghost Is Born. Company In My Back, Handshake Drugs, Muzzle of Bees, and Wishful Thinking sound like classic Wilco songs to me. And don't forget that truly electric Neil Young-esque guitar playing on the first track, At Least That's What You Said.

[vesper]

LARM, http://www.matadorrecords.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1843

[Futureman]

This album is growing on me, and it may become my favorite Wilco album. True, it lacks the pop hooks that characterized Summerteeth and YHF, but I suspect this may be intentional. On the whole, the songs seem more reflective and interesting (with the exception of "Spiders"--which has a somewhat silly and annoyingly repetitive groove. This song puzzles me).

In short, AGIB strikes me as a "meaty" album. I'm inclined to give it many careful listens. I confess I have am not so motivated vis-à-vis TV on the Radio's latest, which has been a disappointment for me.

[Kameek N Deesha]

Not as cohesive and uniformly brilliant as YHF, but still a great record.

Unfortunately it contains two throwaway songs: "I'm A Wheel" & "Late Greats", the first of which is an embarrasing "punk rock" song, the latter of which is like a 500th generation "Radio, Radio"... every song on YHF seemed necessary to the sound and content of that record.

Hey, "Spiders" is one of my favorite songs, even if it is the band's most blatant Neu! ripoff yet...

The 12-minutes of knob-twiddling on "Less Than You Think" is an interesting idea, but somehow seems deperate rather than clever or fascinating.

The lyrics are fascinating, as always... interetsing to see what words/ideas pop up in multiple songs: The Devil, Hell, Chrome, etc.

A great album altogether.