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bitterfruit
08-18-2004, 03:53 PM
Nice to get some props in the mainstream:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/08/12/music.the.pixies.ap/index.html

Joseph
08-18-2004, 04:02 PM
Yeah, cos a band that was on a major label for years and had its music videos in light rotation on MTV never got enough props from the mainstream...

Paul
08-18-2004, 04:04 PM
So, Joseph...how many of those Pixies live discs did you end up buying?

Joseph
08-18-2004, 04:17 PM
Um...they were an investment!

bitterfruit
08-18-2004, 05:26 PM
Nice to get some news of their reunion in the mainstream. Better?

Joseph
08-18-2004, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by bitterfruit
Nice to get some news of their reunion in the mainstream. Better?

I read about the reunion in Spin and Rolling Stone...

Try again.

TheSadDebaser
08-18-2004, 07:29 PM
Hey, the Pixies are awesome.

bitterfruit
08-18-2004, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by Joseph
I read about the reunion in Spin and Rolling Stone...

Try again.

Neither of which are worth reading.

Funk
08-18-2004, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by Joseph
Yeah, cos a band that was on a major label for years and had its music videos in light rotation on MTV never got enough props from the mainstream...

Don't forget opened for U2. Perhaps we can get Paul to tell us a story?

Paul
08-19-2004, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by Funk
Don't forget opened for U2. Perhaps we can get Paul to tell us a story? I'm not your trained monkey!

Funk
08-19-2004, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by Paul
I'm not your trained monkey!

This picture of erin (left), you and me sez different.

Joseph
08-19-2004, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by bitterfruit
Neither of which are worth reading.

That's your opinion. However, they are in fact mainstream publications that have covered the Pixies in recent months...

Joseph: 2, Bitterfruit: 0.

winterwooskie
08-20-2004, 03:16 PM
i remember reading somewhere that they were kind of hated by some in boston because they jumped to a record label almost as fast as weezer.

and about the mainstream crap. i wish people would stop acting like this is such an underground band. yes it's cool but the coolness of it only lasts for about two seconds when you realize that you found out about them the same way you found out about most bands that get a little ahead because of the mainstream attention. people found out about them the same way they found out about letters to cleo/janes addiction/the red hot chili peppers. bands that are marketed in the mainstream as hip unmainstream bands. lol

earl grey
08-20-2004, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by winterwooskie
people found out about them the same way they found out about letters to cleo/janes addiction/the red hot chili peppers. bands that are marketed in the mainstream as hip unmainstream bands. lol

not sure i have ever seen those three bands lumped together before. i'm not sure if this puts me in the minority, but i did like the LTC album 'aurora gory alice' quite a bit back in the day. some great songs on there.

Paul
08-20-2004, 03:35 PM
I know not all their stuff sounded like "Here and Now," but that song turned me off to Letter to Cleo forever.

My first knowledge of Jane's Addiction came in 1988 when I saw a t-shirt at the "rock n' roll apparel/ninja supply/incense market" shop in the mall. It was the cover art for Nothing's Shocking and, even though I didn't hear the album until a year later, that image stuck with me for a long time.

I don't guess marketing now is as easy as it used to be. Bring back the bare breasts and the flaming heads, ad agencies!

Joseph
08-20-2004, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by winterwooskie
people found out about them the same way they found out about letters to cleo/janes addiction/the red hot chili peppers. bands that are marketed in the mainstream as hip unmainstream bands. lol

Are you suggesting that Letters to Cleo aren't hip?!

To the credit of Fat Black Francis and company, at least they never appeared on Melrose Place...

Post 200!

winterwooskie
08-23-2004, 11:33 AM
Are you suggesting that Letters to Cleo aren't hip?!
it's not about whether they are hip or not. it's just that people find out about them in the same mediums as others, but people seem to think it's underground/semi-unmainstream because they found out about them from spin magazine instead of rolling stone (of course rolling stone will mention them three months later probably) or because they found out about them from mtv, but mtv at like 12 o'clock at night! lol

and this is not a tirade against mainstream mediums but i just think it's lame how people want to believe a band is unmainstream even though they probably found out about them that way.

and i forgot to mention this in my last post but on cnn last weekend they actually mentioned the pixies reunion thing on the bottom of the screen with that ticker tape thing. too funny. and people are always making fun of the stupid crap that actually makes it on those things as newsworthy and a bit important. not that the pixies are not important but it's still kind of silly, not to mention that it's not exactly breaking news.

johansen smith
08-23-2004, 12:38 PM
I am reminded of all the Weezer fans in my high school who all thought they were "outside the system" for buying a $40 t-shirt at their concert and a $10 bumper sticker. I call it the Radiohead Rule: When hundreds of thousands of people listen to and buy a band's albums, they're not exactly outside the system.

Funk
08-23-2004, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by johansen smith
I call it the Radiohead Rule: When hundreds of thousands of people listen to and buy a band's albums, they're not exactly outside the system.

The words after "band's" should be "debut album", especially when talking aboot Radiohead and Weezer.

winterwooskie
08-23-2004, 05:12 PM
I call it the Radiohead Rule: When hundreds of thousands of people listen to and buy a band's albums, they're not exactly outside the system.

haha, i got into an argument with a radiohead fan once about something very similar. he couldn't believe that someone considered them to not be so underground regardless of the millions of albums sold/hit single/stadium tours/tons of articles and magazine covers. his reasoning was mostly just because compared to britney spears, they seem so unmainstream.

this person also got pissed at me once because of my criticism about punk and punk posers and he said i knew nothing about punk music because i didn't listen to anti-flag. that's right i am so not punk, lol. nevermind that i'm pretty sure punk has been around since before that band started. i love punk fundamentalists. too funny.

bitterfruit
08-23-2004, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by johansen smith
I am reminded of all the Weezer fans in my high school who all thought they were "outside the system" for buying a $40 t-shirt at their concert and a $10 bumper sticker. I call it the Radiohead Rule: When hundreds of thousands of people listen to and buy a band's albums, they're not exactly outside the system.

Speaking of outside the system, tiny mix tapes reports The Walkmen touring with Incubus. </jaw dropped>

johansen smith
08-23-2004, 05:33 PM
luckily, the Walkman were already not all that great.

tinobeat
08-23-2004, 06:42 PM
sez the fool who likes Songs:ohia....








kiss kiss

bitterfruit
08-23-2004, 07:29 PM
I was thinking the exact same thing.

Magnolia Electric Co. is the best album ever, maing.

winterwooskie
08-25-2004, 03:11 PM
more pixies coverage. did anyone see them discussing the pixies on that cnn spinoff network, i forget what it's called. this is kind of weird that this is becoming stuff that news anchors are talking about now. they had a spin writer talking about their breakup and stuff and it just seemed like he didn't even know much about the pixies and just made up some cliched reasons for how they broke up and restarted and stuff.

TheSadDebaser
08-25-2004, 09:46 PM
Speaking of which, Marc Spitz just wrote a huge sixteen-page oral history of the band for Spin. Lotsa cool pictures, too. And they're on the cover.

Funk
08-30-2004, 07:41 AM
Mainstream Pixies references continue: Smoking Gun posts their tour rider http://thesmokinggun.com/backstagetour/pixies/pixies_1.html

otto midnight
08-31-2004, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by winterwooskie
people found out about them the same way they found out about letters to cleo/janes addiction/the red hot chili peppers. bands that are marketed in the mainstream as hip unmainstream bands. lol


i found out about the pixies from my older sister (circa 87 or 88), letters to cleo from a cherry disc compilation (sometime in the early 90's), jane's addiction from the lonliest goth girl in the merrimack valley circa 1987.

are you putting the pixies in the same bag as letters to cleo, janes addiction, and the red hot chili peppers?

winterwooskie
08-31-2004, 02:06 PM
maintstream mediums are how people generally find out about bands, particular band but this is how a large percentage do. and like you point out, if it's not that way then it's usually then from a person who found out about them that way mostly. hearing things from other people is one way bands spread but that's usually not the case since publications/tv/whatever else is more likely to spread info. about a band.

and about whether i'm lumping those bands together into a particular bag, they can be, their lumped in together in a broad way, ie. alternative/modern music and by how they are marketed by their people and use the same mediums for that particular demographic. there's a reason why all of them were on 120 minutes and alternative nation, why they were mentioned in spin/alternative press/rolling stone/pitchfork/mtv/whatever else in which they are popular and able to get mentioned in many places.