Confession time Part II

[Thor]

good idea, tinobeat..

Who do you love that nobody seems to get?

My answer is The Doors.

[earl grey]

what about all the 15 year olds that just finished reading the jim morrison biography?

actually i think the doors have some great songs. "when the music's over" + "roadhouse blues" especially.

[Thor]

yeah, yeah...

I'm speaking more about the music than the myth... and specifically the first album. I could talk about the various merits of their other albums (most of all L.A Woman), but for me it's all about the self titled debut. It's incredible.. the crystal ship is one the most beautiful songs I've heard.. the whole ablum flows beautifully and it just kicks ass.

[winterversion]

Not really in love with them, but I've been enjoying the Handsome Boy Modeling School, and not too many people seem to think highly of them.

[bitterfruit]

I'm always a little surprised that more people here aren't into Superchunk.

Actually, Chapel Hill in general probably gets overlooked a little.

Show some love for the 'Chunk.

[soot]

Yes The Doors....Morrison Hotel is very underated in my opinion....
They do have a fair share of clunkers
(3/4 of The Soft Parade, Riders on The Storm)
But there's a lot to like if you can get past JM's antics & sometimes bad poetry.

That's about my guiliest pleasure....maybe Fleetwood Mac as well.. but only Rumours really...

[Thor]

ok, I admit it, I read that biography when I was 15. So I'm not to be trusted. The seeds were planted.

Morrison Hotel is great. The track 'the soft parade' is quite well written lyrically, I think. The music for it is one of the greatest disasters of the 60's.

i think riders is quite beautiful. it gets overkilled these days on radio stations, destroying its charm.

I like Peter Green era fleetwood.

[tinobeat]

As far as old bands go, I totally agree about the doors. the legend of Jim fuckin Morrison totally outshines the fact that the other three guys were one of the hottest bands around. Though the "doors fan" sketch on Kids in the Hall is more than correct. Its a tough band to love.

Superchunk I could never get, but I always wonder why Archers of Loaf were forgotten so quickly after they broke up. I talk to these kids, and they're all "Archers of who?" Crooked Fingers is good and all... but come on folks.

My "band people hate on pure instinct but should really think twice about" is, and hear me out, folks,: Cake. That first !!! album is nothing more than a sped up Cake record with stupider lyrics, and all the kids went mad over it. I'm convinced that they just get written off for their singles and its a damn shame. Fashion Nugget, including the hit single ("The Distance"), is one hell of a record. "Frank Sinatra" is one of the greatest songs of the past 10 years, in my book.

Full disclosure: I haven't heard anything since the 3rd record, so I don't know how they're holding up, but those first 3 Cake records are pure gold, man.

[vesper]

Originally posted by tinobeat
That first !!! album is nothing more than a sped up Cake record with stupider lyrics, and all the kids went mad over it.

you do realize that Tyler Pope played guitar for cake before going to !!!/out hud, right?

i guess mine are electric light orchestra, elton john, mariah carey, disco, and randy newman.

[TheSadDebaser]

I can't understand why Archers of Loaf are so ignored, either. Maybe it's because those records are out of print? I only own the first and the last.

[Salman]

Mudhoney. Seems like nobody gives a shit about them.

[Patrick]

I love all Fleetwood Mac pretty much, the Peter Green stuff, some of the intervening material ('Bare Trees'), and most certainly the Buckingham-Nicks trilogy. But the Mac have become a hipster cause in the last few years so it doesn't really count.

Who do I love that nobody seems to get... the Shoes? (Excepting Mark Ohe.)

A lot of people seem to take Minor Threat for granted or write 'em off, but to me they're one of the greatest bands of all time.

Patrick

[delgado]

Well acorrding to the Biggest Dissapointments thread, I seem to be the only one who likes Pedro the Lion's "Achilles Heel" album from this year. You people are crazy! Did you even listen to the album- seems like a natural progression for the band from what my ears are hearing. I'd put it in my top 5 albums of the year.

[Paul]

If it's at all similar to all the other Pedro the Lion albums, I don't need to hear it to know it's boring.

[Funk]

Originally posted by Paul
If it's at all similar to all the other Pedro the Lion albums, I don't need to hear it to know it's boring.

You hate Jesus is yr real reason for the dislike.

[Paul]

Originally posted by Funk
You hate Jesus is yr real reason for the dislike. Oh yeah? Well explain those Petra and Amy Grant albums in my collection!

[Funk]

Originally posted by Paul
Oh yeah? Well explain those Petra and Amy Grant albums in my collection!

You hate taste?

[bitterfruit]

Originally posted by tinobeat
Superchunk I could never get, but I always wonder why Archers of Loaf were forgotten so quickly after they broke up. I talk to these kids, and they're all "Archers of who?" Crooked Fingers is good and all... but come on folks.

My "band people hate on pure instinct but should really think twice about" is, and hear me out, folks,: Cake. That first !!! album is nothing more than a sped up Cake record with stupider lyrics, and all the kids went mad over it. I'm convinced that they just get written off for their singles and its a damn shame. Fashion Nugget, including the hit single ("The Distance"), is one hell of a record. "Frank Sinatra" is one of the greatest songs of the past 10 years, in my book.

Full disclosure: I haven't heard anything since the 3rd record, so I don't know how they're holding up, but those first 3 Cake records are pure gold, man.

I saw Cake a few years ago at the 9:30 club and it was awesome. "Pressure Chief" sucks like nothing else though.

[bitterfruit]

Ah, this is one that will cause the haters to come out in full force.

Ben Folds Five. I love everything before "Rockin' The Suburbs."

The only thing that would top this would be if someone mentioned Dave Matthews.

[Paul]

I like Dave Matthews. But Funk's already called my taste into question, so is anyone really surprised?

[otto midnight]

Originally posted by Salman
Mudhoney. Seems like nobody gives a shit about them.


is there a more overlooked band that the volcano suns? their albums still sound better than 3/4 of what's being released today and for the life of me i can not understand why more people aren't/weren't into them.


oh, and live skull kicked ass too.

[bitterfruit]

Originally posted by Paul
I like Dave Matthews. But Funk's already called my taste into question, so is anyone really surprised?

No, I am actually not surprised. Kidding, kinda.

[Paul]

Originally posted by otto midnight
is there a more overlooked band that the volcano suns? their albums still sound better than 3/4 of what's being released today and for the life of me i can not understand why more people aren't/weren't into them. Just a guess, but is it because their shit's hard to locate?

[DefenderOfPants]

i like weezer's first two albums. and a-ha's first two. i also like "kill uncle" by morrissey. a lot. not even morrissey fans like that album.

how do people here feel about malkmus?

[Futureman]

Originally posted by Paul
Oh yeah? Well explain those Petra and Amy Grant albums in my collection!

Never thought I read such a thing on this board. Paul knows about Petra. Whoda thunk it?

[Paul]

Oh yeah, before my parents would let me listen to the secular rock n' roll, I spent a lot of time with Petra (and Amy Grant and Michael W. Smith and Degarmo & Key, etc).

I actually went to a DC Talk concert once. Even then, I knew they were ridiculous.

[bitterfruit]

Originally posted by Paul
Oh yeah, before my parents would let me listen to the secular rock n' roll, I spent a lot of time with Petra (and Amy Grant and Michael W. Smith and Degarmo & Key, etc).

I actually went to a DC Talk concert once. Even then, I knew they were ridiculous.

That's the ultimate in misery.

I've got a work colleague who tells me that he wants his son to listen to Creed for similar reasons.

[earl grey]

Originally posted by DefenderOfPants
i also like "kill uncle" by morrissey. a lot. not even morrissey fans like that album.


yeah man that's just bizarre. 'kill uncle' has got to be one of the most disappointing albums i've ever bought. i probably wouldn't flinch if i got it now, but back then buying a CD was a big deal to me. if luck hadn't started me with 'bona drag' first, who knows when i would have gotten into morrissey + the smiths.

[winterwooskie]

i really like some songs off of aqua's first album. barbie girl and candyman are so good.

and i like mudhoney. they are the greatest fun band. they should have their own television show like the monkees. they would be perfect for something similar to that. i actually do think way too much about how awesome it would be if they did have a show just like the monkees and stuff.

[Paul]

Originally posted by bitterfruit
That's the ultimate in misery.

I've got a work colleague who tells me that he wants his son to listen to Creed for similar reasons. Well, for what it's worth, Petra (unlike most of their CCM peers) were very in-tune with what was going on in the world of regular rock music at the time. They could have easily held their own with Journey and Loverboy if they dropped the preachy themes and went for mainstream radio. Chicago even went after Greg Volz to fill the slot Peter Cetera left vacant, but Volz didn't want to work secularly.

"Rose Colored Stained Glass Windows" is probably the best song Journey/Kansas/Boston/Loverboy never recorded.

[earl grey]

Originally posted by winterwooskie

and i like mudhoney. they are the greatest fun band. they should have their own television show like the monkees.

i can see mark arm being a good TV host, he is awesome in the movie 'hype!'. the movie + soundtrack have a kick ASS live version of "touch me i'm sick" (prolly my fave sub pop single from that era).

[Funk]

Originally posted by otto midnight
is there a more overlooked band that the volcano suns? their albums still sound better than 3/4 of what's being released today and for the life of me i can not understand why more people aren't/weren't into them.


While I agree with Paul on the hard to find thing (although let's be reasonable, how many of the "Best Songs of 2004" did Paul pay for? I mean, there's ways around shit being outta print), I think the fact that the Volcano Suns were an offshoot of a far more acclaimed band, and were hardly the premier act on Homestead, SST or Touch & Go probably has to do with their second-tier status then/forgottenness now. Although who else can say they were on those three labels?

[johansen smith]

Soul Coughing.

[tinobeat]

Originally posted by vesper
you do realize that Tyler Pope played guitar for cake before going to !!!/out hud, right?

Actually I did not know that. I knew that !!! and Cake are Sacto bands (well in the case of !!!, were), so I thought that maybe Cake were sort of mentors to the misguided youth of !!!.

You have no idea how much it pleases me that the guy who plays bass on "Movement" by LCD Soundsystem used to be in Cake. totally awesome.

[Wallerton]

Originally posted by DefenderOfPants
i i also like "kill uncle" by morrissey. a lot. not even morrissey fans like that album.

how do people here feel about malkmus?

I can't say that I like "Kill Uncle" a lot, but I probably prefer it to either "Southpaw Grammar" or "Maladjusted."

I really like Malkmus's first solo record, though I have to admit that I haven't listened to "Pig Lib" since shortly after I bought it.

I've already listed some of my guilty pleasures on this forum in the past, but here are a few more.

--Ben Folds Five, though my collection is hardly complete
--The only Pedro the Lion album I really, really LIKE is "Achilles Heel," though a lot of the folks on this board regard it as one of the major disappointments of 2004
--As a (former/amateur) bassist, I like some of Cake's bass lines, though I don't own any of their albums

Oh, and top this: recently, I've been revisiting (and really enjoying) Al Stewart's "Year of the Cat" LP.

[Thor]

the first few eminem albums are great, I think.

[miss understood]

I still maintain that Pearl Jam is one of the most underrated bands in rock history. If Ten had never blown up the way that it did, people might actually listen to Vitalogy, No Code, or Yield and give them credit for making a string of outstanding albums, which they did. Sure, the last two were eh, but..

I'll second the Cake love too. :)

[george]

the big one for me is and probably always will be bright eyes.

[bitterfruit]

Originally posted by miss understood
I still maintain that Pearl Jam is one of the most underrated bands in rock history. If Ten had never blown up the way that it did, people might actually listen to Vitalogy, No Code, or Yield and give them credit for making a string of outstanding albums, which they did. Sure, the last two were eh, but..

I'll second the Cake love too. :)

Eddie Vedder should consider participating in the "things to put on a t-shirt" thread on the FMBB rather than putting out records. Ten was the last good record he ever made.

[Paul]

Originally posted by bitterfruit
Ten was the last good record he ever made. WHAT?!

And I'm not saying this just to be contrary, but it's without a doubt my least favorite Pearl Jam record. It's horrible. I like to pretend, actually, that it doesn't even exist (along with parts of Vs).

All that fretless bass and jammy drum breakdowns make me want to puke.

[earl grey]

yeah ten is WAY too produced. i like the songs themselves - almost all of them were great live. but the studio glaze is just way, way too much. i personally think they peaked with vitalogy.

[bitterfruit]

Not that I pull "Ten" out now to get my swerve on or nuttin, but it was a good record to listen to every morning while driving to school. (truth: riding the big yellow bus listening to "Ten" on tape)

[george]

Originally posted by bitterfruit
(truth: riding the short yellow bus listening to "Ten" on tape)

[bitterfruit]

I knew some asshole would make that tired ol' joke. I was just wondering which one it would be. I should have guessed.

[Paul]

george isn't above stooping to the obvious where a good laugh might be involved. Kudos!

[bitterfruit]

Paul, truth be told, I thought it would be you that would go for the "short bus" joke. I was actually dissapointed in reality.

[Paul]

Sorry, I'm all snarked out today.

[george]

Originally posted by bitterfruit
I knew some asshole would make that tired ol' joke. I was just wondering which one it would be. I should have guessed.

zing-a-ding-ding!!

[Brushback]

Death Of Samantha
Breaking Circus
Doctor's Mob

[yovan]

I used to love 311.

And I'll still listen to the first 3 albums.

"Grass Roots" was exceptional, especially at the time it came out (right before the whole rap-rock thing)

They went downhill when they stopped rapping and started singing.

[winterversion]

Not necessarily bands, but some songs that I liked:

Christina Aguilera: Come on Over. Very catchy little tune.

New Radicals: You Get What You Give. I thought this was a pretty decent mainstream band that somehow didn't really catch on.

Dexter Freebish: Leaving Town. Another radio friendly mainstream band that never made it. What happened to these guys?

[earl grey]

though the ice got mighty thin with their last album, i still have a bit of a soft spot for coldplay. <ducks>

[earl grey]

Originally posted by winterversion
New Radicals: You Get What You Give. I thought this was a pretty decent mainstream band that somehow didn't really catch on.


"you get what you give" is a *great* song, it used to be the lone redeeming quality of the shit jukebox at the bar near my old job.

[Miss Tasty Princess]

My love of Jackyl makes even my metalhead friends cringe.

[redheaven]

Not sure if these are shameful, but I haven't met too many other fans.....

Throwing Muses/Kristin Hersh
Tindersticks
Superchunk
His Name Is Alive
Ida

[Miss Tasty Princess]

Originally posted by redheaven
Ida I don't know their stuff but I love the two albums member Karla Schickele has done under the name k.

[tinobeat]

Originally posted by earl grey
though the ice got mighty thin with their last album, i still have a bit of a soft spot for coldplay. <ducks>

I'm the one ducking behind you for agreeing entirely...

[Thor]

Originally posted by earl grey
though the ice got mighty thin with their last album, i still have a bit of a soft spot for coldplay. <ducks>

The guy has a good voice.. and don't panic was really nice.

I'm so overkilled on them now, though... and the sound of the band always annoyed me... way too unoriginal.

[vesper]

i wasn't really paying attention to the radio around 2000, so i still think "yellow" is a pretty good song.

[earl grey]

Originally posted by vesper
i wasn't really paying attention to the radio around 2000, so i still think "yellow" is a pretty good song.

they've all been played to death, but "shiver" has thankfully managed to escape attention so far.

[Thor]

Originally posted by earl grey
they've all been played to death, but "shiver" has thankfully managed to escape attention so far.

Clocks was the most overplayed.. I used to like the melody, now it makes me ill... a combination of severe overkill and 72 different, bad remixes.

[george]

Originally posted by earl grey
though the ice got mighty thin with their last album, i still have a bit of a soft spot for coldplay. <ducks>

that's a good one. they have GREAT singles.

[redheaven]

I don't know their stuff but I love the two albums member Karla Schickele has done under the name k.

That's funny, I bought the first one and probably only listened to it once or twice......should give the second one a try, maybe.....do you prefer one over the other?......

She also put out a great l'il split single with Low......definitely worth tracking down......

[tinobeat]

Originally posted by earl grey
they've all been played to death, but "shiver" has thankfully managed to escape attention so far.

I think that's the thing that has kept coldplay in OK graces with me. I never listen to the radio so I wouldn't know whether a song's been played to death or not. The special lady is really into them, so we have both of the albums, and whenever I put them on I enjoy it enough. a little schlocky, and the guy's voice isn't totally my cup of tea, but as far as MOR mainstream rock goes, you can definitely do a lot worse than "Yellow" or "Clocks."

[Thor]

I agree that yellow and clocks are good songs. the irony is I don't listen to the radio either, but I still hear it everywhere I go...

[Miss Tasty Princess]

Originally posted by redheaven
That's funny, I bought [New Problems] and probably only listened to it once or twice......should give [Goldfish] a try, maybe.....do you prefer one over the other?......

She also put out a great l'il split single with Low......definitely worth tracking down...... I think I slightly prefer New Problems; both took several listens to really sink in, though. On Goldfish, BTW, she's backed by The Malarkies (http://www.themalarkies.com), who I totally love to pieces (their 10,000 Back Doors was my favorite album of 2002 and their Best Map was my favorite EP of 2003). I still need to snag that split CD.

[TheSadDebaser]

Sometimes I feel like one of the only people who really like Sleater-Kinney.

[bitterfruit]

I'm so back and forth on "One Beat" sometimes. For the most part though, I just don't get it.

Matt Suggs is marvelous, but I don't see why he's not more well liked. Maybe he is and I just don't know it.

edit: when I read this thread, I feel like singing that bad R&B song by Usher with a similar title.

[Wallerton]

Originally posted by TheSadDebaser
Sometimes I feel like one of the only people who really like Sleater-Kinney.

I really, really like the Dig Me Out LP. "Words and Guitar" is one of my favorite songs ever ever ever. The rest of their stuff, however, I could take or leave.

...which doesn't mean I'm going to get rid of my copy ofOne Beat with the bonus 7" and autographed poster!

[earl grey]

Originally posted by TheSadDebaser
Sometimes I feel like one of the only people who really like Sleater-Kinney.

i love sleater-kinney. i stopped listening to them for a while after 'all hands on the bad one' (which i've never liked) but 'one beat' brought me back. 'the hot rock' is where it's at though.

also, their live show is fantastic. i always walk out wanting to marry carrie brownstein.

[Paul]

Originally posted by earl grey
i always walk out wanting to marry carrie brownstein. Got a vagina?

Janet's my girl. *swoon*

[winterwooskie]

sleater-kinney would be great if the singer stopped singing. i can't stand the melodramatic screaming and stuff. the best song corrin tucker ever wrote was that one instrumental song on heaven's to betsy's calculated album. that song is always stuck in my head.

and it is sad that carrie browstein likes to take a drink from the fuzzy cup.

[Futureman]

What's a ... ?

oh.

[Salman]

Sleater-Kinney has its moments like the dual melody in "Burn, Don't Freeze" but they're a bit boring most of the time, at least to me. The Hot Rock isn't bad though.

[TheSadDebaser]

Ah, this is refreshing.

Carrie Brownstein's awesome.

[DefenderOfPants]

Matt Suggs is marvelous, but I don't see why he's not more well liked. Maybe he is and I just don't know it.

yeah. i don't understand that one, either.
maybe it's his name?

[Funk]

Originally posted by Paul
Got a vagina?

Janet's my girl. *swoon*

That's ironic.