Another Silver Jews album

[Futureman]

A Silver Jews album (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/05-01/28.shtml#story4)

[george]

if i thought it would be as good as "american water" this would literally be the best news ever. it's still cool though.

[tinobeat]

I have a feeling it could be just as good if not better... the original three of DB, SM and BN? plus Mike Fellows? and others?

its shapin up to be the best one yet, in theory...

[johansen smith]

Originally posted by george
if i thought it would be as good as "american water" this would literally be the best news ever. it's still cool though.
I think you meant "as good as 'Bright Flight'"

[tinobeat]

you know, its been three or four fucking years, and I still haven't heard Bright Flight...

I just kept forgetting to buy it. Unfortunately I just bled money this weekend, so I need to curtail the shopping a little...

[Susan Kirk]

American Water shits all over Bright Flight. BF was a hugely disappointing album compared to the perfection of AW.

Silver Jews ain't Silver Jews without Malkmus.

[tinobeat]

uh oh... FITE!

[george]

Originally posted by Susan Kirk
Silver Jews ain't Silver Jews without Malkmus.

i would have agreed before bright flight, but bright flight is damn good.

[johansen smith]

Originally posted by tinobeat
uh oh... FITE!
it's not a fight when I'm right.

[Susan Kirk]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

[Futureman]

Oh how I love to sow seeds of discord. You've all fallen prey to my devilish scheme!

[george]

DCB
all my strange is gonna be friendly
Wed Feb 9, 2005 09:17
69.245.13.238



We won't be finished until Feb.24th. So it should come out around July.
i'm giving a reading at sarah lawrence on thurs nite a t 9pm. bring a walkman and ill let you listen to what it sounds like so far.
the working title is "tanglewood numbers"

you know "woodchilde masquerade" had it's chances.
and i know what you're thinking-

but remember "the natural bridge" is THREE words.

the players in order of appearance:

mike fellows
steve malkmus
brian kotzur
bob nastanovich
bobby bare jr.
steve west
duane denison
azita youseffi
will oldham
pete cummings
tony crow
paz lenchatain
j.d. wilkes


songs are called :

sleeping is the only love
there is a place
punks in the beerlight
how can i love you (if you won't lie down?)
the poor the fair and the good
animal shapes
i'm getting back (into getting back into getting back into you)
sometimes the pony gets depressed
k-hole
the farmer's hotel
brian's song
freezing in the shadow of your knee
region ten

re: is it the last silver jews album? Impossible! as long as two or us walk the earth
the band is still together. and, as always, thanks to you that give a damn about what we do.

yours,


DCB

[tinobeat]

that brought a little tear to me eye...

[GooseNeckn]

Bright Flight doesn't even compare to American Water! Malkmus is definitely what drives the band to the new level, and with the addition of Bob Nastanovich and Steve West, I see nothing but good things in the future from the Silver Jews. I'm excited :D

[Futureman]

Bob Nastanovich is a gimmick. I can't see him adding a damn thing to the new album. What's he going to do? Beat on a cowbell and wear a sardonic grin?

[tinobeat]

Originally posted by Futureman
Bob Nastanovich is a gimmick. I can't see him adding a damn thing to the new album. What's he going to do? Beat on a cowbell and wear a sardonic grin?

whoa there, cowboy! lets not be rash...

He'll probably play drums on some songs, maybe some spirited backups, and bring a general sense of awesome to the whole thing.

[Paul]

How anyone could underestimate the importance of Bob on a recording is beyond me. I ♥ Bob!!!

[Salman]

Wasn't he the only drummer on Starlite Walker.
Bobby N is the man.

[tinobeat]

as I recall, westy also drummed on SW as well... but I'd have to look to be sure.

but yeah, Bobby N. is the OG Silver Jews drummer, not to be reckoned with.

[Futureman]

I appreciate the novelty of Bob. But c'mon, that's all he brings. And my understanding is that the novelty is confined to the live shows. I don't see the studio albums being any better or worse because of Bob.

[Paul]

You know the jubilant vibe you get from any recording that Bob's participated in? That's all Bob, man. Berman and SM are fucking stiffs and it shows when Bob's not around.

[tinobeat]

s'true. He adds a je ne sais quoi...

Obviously its more pronounced live, but I sincerely believe that he forces the "talent" to have more fun.. not to say he isn't "talent" himself, but he's never the featured one.

[Futureman]

You guys are incorrigible!

[tinobeat]

SILENCE!

[greenarrow]

I have to admit I'm not into Bright Flight either. Like Terror Twilight, I think it's way overproduced. It sounds too slick, and I don't think the songs are very good, but I love the first song, Tennessee, and Let's Not And Say We Did.

Natural Bridge and American Water are a tie for my favorite jews album. Starlight Walker is a close second, and for the record, I wanna say that I definitely prefer Malkmus and Bob as members, although I'm glad he made Natural Bridge without them, 'cos I think that record is perfect and something that he needed to make without them. In the future though, I say definitely keep SM and Bob in the band.

-greenarrow

[johansen smith]

Joe Pernice was one of the studio musicians for the original, scrapped sessions for the Natural Bridge.

[greenarrow]

Joe Pernice was one of the studio musicians for the original, scrapped sessions for the Natural Bridge.

Cool. Who is Joe pernice? Anything to do with the Pernice Brothers? I remember reading an interview w/ bob and he said that he and SM were recording the natural bridge with big bad dave, but he told them he wanted to do it without them and it bummed out Bob. That was a long sentence.

[johansen smith]

Joe Pernice would be the man who sings and writes all the Pernice Brothers songs.

[tinobeat]

Originally posted by greenarrow
I remember reading an interview w/ bob and he said that he and SM were recording the natural bridge with big bad dave, but he told them he wanted to do it without them and it bummed out Bob. That was a long sentence.

If its any consolation, the total awesomeness that is the Pacific Trim EP came from SM, Bobby, and Westy being stranded in the studio after Berman ditched the sessions...

that's how I know the story, at least.

[the Pawnbroker]

"Give It a Day" maybe Pavement's finest hour (or four minutes).

[hstencil]

dudes pick up some pale horse riders to know the genius that is Bob.

[Salman]

"I Love Perth" is total genius.

[Lukas]

what> have you ever read any interviews or seen slow century?
Bob became a factor in the studio since WZ, maybe not a large or one but he did leave a very important impression when it came to playfulness.
Do not say SM is a stiff... first solo album [cough].
Bob definitely brings something to the table when it comes to creative mood though, he is not a gimmick. Futureman you are insane in the membrane!

[tinobeat]

Originally posted by Lukas

Do not say SM is a stiff... first solo album [cough].

um, yeah, proof that he's kind of a stiff. Don't get me wrong, I really like the album, but its not nearly as relaxed and flowing as any Pave records or even Pig Lib, which is waaay looser.

[Futureman]

And thank God for Bob's invaluable contributions to American Water. Oh wait...

I confess I'm needling you guys. I'm just not convinced that BN is as essential to the SJ as he was to Pavement. Again, the band seemed to get by just fine without him in American Water. If he was an essential contributor to those sessions, then I'll gladly confess the error. I am sure he's an awesome fella. I just think he's decoration.

[GooseNeckn]

It's not like the SJ need him to contribute in the least bit. I just think it'll be interesting to see what they will sound like with the help of Nastanovich. His involvement just might give the new album a little polish so to speak.

[tinobeat]

Originally posted by Futureman
And thank God for Bob's invaluable contributions to American Water. Oh wait...

I confess I'm needling you guys. I'm just not convinced that BN is as essential to the SJ as he was to Pavement. Again, the band seemed to get by just fine without him in American Water. If he was an essential contributor to those sessions, then I'll gladly confess the error. I am sure he's an awesome fella. I just think he's decoration.

this is the awesomest non-argument ever! anyway, yeah, American Water is a definite exception to the "Bob is what makes it all awesome" rule...

Instead of thinking of him as decoration, think of him as the milliliter of hot sauce it takes to make the chili just perfect. its not much, but its not the same without...

I could be projecting, of course...

[hstencil]

I think the only stiffs are on this thread. Relax and enjoy the music, before you turn into Perpetua.

[tinobeat]

man, why you gotta be like that? all "correct" an shit..

[johansen smith]

it baffles me that a thread about Silver Jews would somehow find so many people to argue that anyone but David Berman was integral to a Silver Jews album.

[tinobeat]

because there's nothing to argue. So boredom pulls out the nitpicker in me...

its not pretty.

[earl grey]

Originally posted by tinobeat

its not pretty.

i wonder if you'll move past "no life" when you hit 1500 posts - i think patrick said there were more ratings.

(the fact that i've even thought about this kinda says it all...)

[tinobeat]

I wonder whether its 1500 or 2000...

fuck. I need to quit this bullshit until some of y'all catch up. This is the only thing in the world I'm #1 at, and that's sad...

[Lukas]

Originally posted by GooseNeckn
It's not like the SJ need him to contribute in the least bit. I just think it'll be interesting to see what they will sound like with the help of Nastanovich. His involvement just might give the new album a little polish so to speak.

EDIT:

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[vesper]

apropo to nothing, i went to high school with vick's younger brother, marcus, who is a dick. michael graduated a year before i got there (with my sister, actually), but when he was drafted to the falcons we had "michael vick day." it was ridiculous.

[Lukas]

Is his brother any good? I heard he’s alright; he probably is a dick seeing how Michael is getting the attention because he has non human abilities, and all. Mike is supposed to be very kind and soft spoken though, which is ice compared to people like RANDY MOSS [NOW A RAIDER????].

What do you mean by ridiculous? Good or useless?

I have a Q? – Do the big name college guys receive proper schooling? This might come off as a bit mean and maybe it is, but Vick doesn’t come off as being very educated English wise? Do the schools veto academics in exchange for an all-star athlete?

[vesper]

i'm not a very reliable gauge for anything football, but i wasn't impressed with him when i saw him play (before i actually saw michael vick play). he wasn't bad, but his clout in the school had everything to do with people wanting a signed football and nothing to do with him. clueless bastard.

it was ridiculous in the sense that they stopped everything so we could watch him sit on the auditorium stage and listen to teachers and coaches wax poetic about his time in highschool. he seemed about as bored as us.