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[TheSadDebaser]

Recommend me music similar to:

Screamin' Jay Hawkins

Link Wray/Dick Dale and his Del-Tones

Blue Cheer

Plea-ez.

Thanks brahs!

[tinobeat]

like Link Wray/Dick Dale and his Del-Tones:

check out the Davie Allan & His Arrows 2CD set on Sundazed. FIERY shit.

[Miss Tasty Princess]

Recommend me music similar to:

Blue CheerScreaming, out-of-control, blues-based hard rock Blue Cheer or mellow, California-rock Blue Cheer?

[Dave]

Tino's Davie Allan & The Arrows tip gets a big second from me. Essential

Screamin' Jay: Well right off the bat I'd say you need to get up close and personal w/a Norton records catalog. Too many highlights to mention and it wouldn't really be going out on a limb to say that you couldn't go wrong w/a Norton release.

Blue Cheer: I'm just gonna assume that you mean Vincebus Eruptum/Outside Inside era wild ass destruction. In a way it is a hard one because those two records are rather special, but here is my slightly off the wall suggestion: The Pink Faries.

There's more (there's always more) but that is it for now.

Dave

[9000]

dave/hci/all: any recommedations about the best starting points with the hyped2death label?

[Salman]

The Ventures are pretty rad in the Dick Dale/Link Wray mold. And, although they're a bit more garage rockish, The Trashmen are worth checking out.

[TheSadDebaser]

I love Hyped 2 Death.

I have the second Hyped 2 Death CD, North American Punk "S"(?), which is fantastic. It has great great songs like "I Wanna Be Spoiled", "Drunk and Disorderly" (he talks about drinking behind parked cars and old school yards and things like that, and also great chorus), "Wild Child" (which I believe makes an appearance on the first Killed By Death comp), and a whole bunch of just great songs I've totally forgotten because it's been lost in my brother and sister-in-law's house for about two years(!).

I also have the first one, which I didn't enjoy as much. I have the first issues of Teenline and Homework, neither of which did I enjoy as much as the Hyped 2 Death 2, but that might just be me. I like some tracks on Teenline (particularly "Turn Me On" by The Sex Clark Five, I believe?). Homework has some good stuff, songs like "Nico", "Where Is Bed?" and "Gertrude Stein". I haven't gotten too familiar with H2D 1 yet.

I also have the first Zoomers CD which is pretty cool and has a few good songs, spazzed out acid punk from the early 80s. I also have the nihilists Vast Majority CD which has a cool radio performance (I think the band lasted one year?) and the really great Vast Majority song "I Wanna Be a Number" (I DON'T WANNA BE JIM JACK OR JOE/I WANNA BE FOUR FIVE NINE OH/I DON'T WANNA BE JIM JACK OR JOE/I WANNA BE SIX SIX SIX OH!"). I think I'd recommend that if only for the first track.

The three disc Homosexuals set is also really really great, and really great packaging. So so good. I think my favorite tracks are "You're Not Moving the Way You're Supposed To" (You still call it living/I call it still life) and "Jesus" (such a great pretty song). And there's some stuff on here that sounds straight off the first Gang of Four record. Like RIGHT off it. Anyway it struck me. I actually bought it from Chuck Warner's wife at the FMU fair. She seemed nice.

I want more Hyped 2 Death. The CDs all come with back stories on each band/region they came out of and stuff like that.

[TheSadDebaser]

I'm totally up for garage rock any garage rock recs. are totally welcome!!! And yes I am referring to Vincebus Eruptum/Outside Inside. Such great stuff.

I'll be sure to check out this Davie Allen character! Pink Faeries and Ventures sounds good, I'll check them out. I'm also thinking Creation, Barrett-era Pink Floyd, and early Kinks?

You know I downloaded a track on the internet one time by a band on the Nuggets comp, and then I went and listened to my Urinals CD, and it sounded like they totally swiped the chords and melody from the chorus and used it in their song. I thought that was funny.

I'm gonna have to request that free Norton catalogue. Wish they had some MP3s, but whatever. I need some money. Those LPs, though, would look awful nice if I could find a way to stick 'em up on my bedroom wall or something. Those are just like magic. The Rockin' R's and the A-Bones? Oh man oh man. I hope I manage to catch a job this semester. I should probably send an e-mail along the way to DJ Rex, host of WFMU's Fool's Paradise program, which I really love. I like those Arch Hall, Jr. movies, after I got Eegah randomly he wound up being a guest on Rex's show, and I was like whoa. weird. Neat.

[9000]

thanks, TSD! those staten island fumes have done right by you.

[TheSadDebaser]

It's all the seawater.

Seawater is great.

[Miss Tasty Princess]

Sorry, spaced on this!

Blue Cheer-ish recommendations (i.e., good, early hard rockers):

Blonde on Blonde Rebirth
Blue Öyster Cult Secret Treaties
Edgar Broughton Band Wasa Wasa
Deep Purple In Rock
Dust Dust ← featuring Marky Ramone when he was still Mark Bell
Elias Hulk Unchained
Groundhogs Split ← Malkmus is a fan, if that matters to ya'
Hawkwind Doremi Fasol Latido ← the first album to feature Lemmy
High Tide Sea Shanties ← insanely heavy for '69
Randy Holden Population II ← first solo album by BC's second guitarist (from side two of New! Improved!)
Pentagram First Daze Here ← early/mid-7Ts recordings issued a couple of years ago
Pink Fairies NeverNever Land
Sir Lord Baltimore Kingdom Come

[Dave]

Even though a little piece of me died when Mr. HCI bought that Talking Heads record this post just about brings it back. All of his suggestions here are choice and should keep you busy and happy for some hard rockin' times ahead.

Dave

PS Even though, stylistically, they aren't that close to Blue Cheer the greatness of Blue Oyster Cult can't be stated enough.

[Moon Pix]

For hairy '70s hard rraawwkk I only have six words - the first two Lynyrd Skynryd records.

[SirPatrickSpens]

Blue Cheer -->

all three Comets on Fire records are better than ANY Pink Fairies i think tho' obviously different & after the fact, i know i know (but i wasted lotsa time in trying to really dig the Pink Fairies when, say, the Keef Hartley Band & w/o question early Caravan were way way better.)

High Rise-- any/all, totally outta peak-Blue Cheer (& manic imagination of best QMS & Conqueroo), clearly a big influence on COF

definitely the Groundhogs-- Split, Thank Christ For The Bomb, crazy live stuff

Geoge Brigman-- Jungle Rot, mid-70s private press that really does kill

MC5, esp. live, tho' the discography is a minefield

get the first three Pentagram & internalize the first six Sabbath, first five (or six) Hawkwind inc. the first lp w/Simon House (also High Tide) on fiddle

i have to strongly disagree w/Dave here on BOC... tho' they had some tunes, riffs good Meltzer lyrics. i can stick to Stalk-Forrest Group, not lament, MUCH rather listen to Skynyrd.

Mudhoney, early & recent & most live stuff; very underrated & I was among those doing the underrating.

'68-'69 Grateful Dead, if you have the taste

i know i'm forgetting some things (Cactus?) but...

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Link Wray

you MUST hear Link's headband album on Mercury, one the secret giants of early '70s American music, along w/Sir Doug, Gene Clark, the first two Little Feat sides, etc.

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Davie Allen-- the dbl-cd set on Sundazed is fine & maybe too much at that... the single disc reissues are also excellent but the thing w/Allen is more tends to be less... your almost better off tracking down the biker flicks good chunks of that music comes from. (Did any of you guys buy the Savage Pencil biker music picture disc on Blast First back in the day?)

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Surf music-- start w/the Sundazed comps & explore from there; it's a vast & perilous field

Garage-- Nuggets II, first few Back From the Grave, the Sundazed series (again), Misfits box set or equivalent, handful of Cramps and Billy Childish sides, then your on your own. Unchecked enthusiasm for the garage is way more dangerous than smoking.

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Category of His Own

13th Floor Elevators/Roky Erikson: worth all effort & discographical confusion to get to the many many highlights.

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Hyped-- can't pretend to know 'em all but FUCK power pop in ALL iterations (unless you count the Misfits); the Homosexuals triple set really is that good & most of the UK DIY volumes are listenable... the Desperate Bicycles, are also really that good etc etc.

enjoy!

sps

[Miss Tasty Princess]

Blue Cheer -->

all three Comets on Fire records are better than ANY Pink Fairies i think tho' obviously different & after the fact, i know i know (but i wasted lotsa time in trying to really dig the Pink Fairies when, say, the Keef Hartley Band & w/o question early Caravan were way way better.)I've not heard their records but live I was totally unimpressed. I also see no relation between CoF and PF other than both play(ed) loud r'n'r.

High Rise-- any/all, totally outta peak-Blue Cheer (& manic imagination of best QMS & Conqueroo), clearly a big influence on COFBlue Cheer had songs, though. Every HR album I've heard has been just out-of-control soloing over a not particularly exciting background.

Geoge Brigman-- Jungle Rot, mid-70s private press that really does killI didn't much care for this one on first listen but it's growing on me.

MC5, esp. live, tho' the discography is a minefieldI'd recommend sticking to the three proper albums and Babes in Arms. Every other posthumous release has been shit, IMO.

i have to strongly disagree w/Dave here on BOC... tho' they had some tunes, riffs good Meltzer lyrics. i can stick to Stalk-Forrest GroupS-FG are good but quite a bit lighter in tone and rawk than BÖC.

'68-'69 Grateful Dead, if you have the tasteWTF, SPS? The early stuff is stellar but not at all similar to BC.

i know i'm forgetting some things (Cactus?) but...Cactus have always seemed pretty overrated to me, unless you like generic blues rock played really loud, that is. Mountain were far superior, IMO.

FUCK power pop in ALL iterationsWhat does this have to do with the topic at hand?

[SirPatrickSpens]

HCI, dude... Mastodon! I gotta run out in a sec for Big Business/High on Fire blowout but--

* there ARE a few brilliant, good sound-qual MC5 things, I can look up titles & post later

* I see yr point about High Rise but I never thought of Blue Cheer as a heavy song band-- not like the Dead, or Sabbath, or Byrds, or Neil, etc

* I can imagine Comets on Fire having a duff gig, if the energy & effects/amps go awry but I think all three records are superb-- Julian Cope effuses about 'em on Head Heritage

* Power Pop scorn except for like the Last or something bc there's that whole series on Hyped 2 Deth

* I forgot to mention Boris... Boris Boris Boris... any discussion of heavy & pysche rock 2006 that neglects the genius of Boris is deeply flawed. "Heavy Rocks" is worth the Japanese import price or beg Southern Lord to reissue.

* Cactus is better than that & yah, Mountain, while better than remembered, are pretty extraneous I think... I'm not a Cream fan either, tho' I know that concept was important & I esp. respect Jack Bruce/Pete Brown.

* I forgot some Jeff Beck stuff...

* Pink Fairies-- the third is pretty good but again more what it suggests than what it is; I'm all for historicism, which I was I wasted $$$ & time checking lotsa stuff out over the years but I can think of 100 weird rock records, Am., English, Kraut & more that blow all the Pink Fairies away, save for particular period in Brit Underground history.

* that said there was one Twink solo record I remember liking a lot... not as much as Venom "At War With Satan" or Sleep "Dopesmoker" but those aren't really fair comparisons.

* have you listened to much '68-'69 Dead? They're not quite violent like Blue Cheer could be but often heavy & high energy. I know there's an accretion of cultural baggage to get thru but...

* the one BOC that struck me as passably heavy compared to that much that came before & after was a promo only 4-song 12"... surely it's been reissued on cd somewhere at this point? FWIW, Julian Cope writes up BOC, tho' he had to make up a custom compilation to do it.

time to ROCK, yo--

sps

[TheSadDebaser]

Boris is awesome. I missed them when they played here, and I'm pissed now.

[Miss Tasty Princess]

High Tide Sea Shanties ← insanely heavy for '69Both High Tide albums have just been reissued in deluxe editions (bonus trax, nice booklets, band history, etc.) by Eclectic Discs in the UK. I ordered them from Amazon.com for under $15 each, the best price I've seen on this side of the pond.

* I see yr point about High Rise but I never thought of Blue Cheer as a heavy song band-- not like the Dead, or Sabbath, or Byrds, or Neil, etcAgreed but BC have songs that stick in my head, unlike what I've heard of High Rise. For OTT Japanese gui' tar wail, I prefer DMBQ and Overhang Party.

* Power Pop scorn except for like the Last or something bc there's that whole series on Hyped 2 DethAh. I have no volumes of H2D so was unaware of a power pop set. The Last are pretty great; new album alledgedly on the way. Other PP I dig: Dwight Twilley, Big Star and Kenny Howes. An argument could be made for The Move as power pop; "Brontosaurus" crushes, for example.

* have you listened to much '68-'69 Dead? They're not quite violent like Blue Cheer could be but often heavy & high energy. I know there's an accretion of cultural baggage to get thru but...I love that period of GD! No one was more shocked than me to discover that a few years ago. I still don't think it'd be comparable at all, though, to someone looking for similarities to Blue Cheer.

* the one BOC that struck me as passably heavy compared to that much that came before & after was a promo only 4-song 12"... surely it's been reissued on cd somewhere at this point? FWIW, Julian Cope writes up BOC, tho' he had to make up a custom compilation to do it.Two tracks are on the Workshop of the Telescopes dbl-CD comp and the rest are on one of the deluxe reissues of the first four studio albums from a few years back. Those are all essential, IMO: Blue Öyster Cult, Tyranny and Mutation, Secret Treaties and Agents of Fortune.