Great underrated proformers of our time?

[Keith]

IT Can be a band or solo singer, you could even suggust a filmmaker or actor you feel deserves more exposure. It can apply to any kind of art.

I really love the band Pram, their sound the singers voice it's very magical and soulful. The kind of music i could lose myself to.
Yo La Tengo i think should be more covered, if you think in the way of Pavement, the Flaming Lips etc they should get more press.

[Keith]

it may seem a easily choice but Cat Power too, just as a great artest.

[Moon Pix]

it may seem a easily choice but Cat Power too, just as a great artest.

Absolutely!!!

[tinobeat]

Until every press outlet decides that he's the best thing happening to music now, I decree Greg Ashley of The Gris Gris / The Mirrors deserves way more props than he gets (at least around my busted part of town).

'sayin

[winterwooskie]

Justin Vollmar.

[Keith]

Tracy Chellvar(i know thats probley not how you spell the last name) one of the best novalists around. She handles her stories and charators so skillfully. It's a shame that Girl With a Pearl Earing is the only novel of hers to get proper mainstream attention. So to me she's underratted.

[Moon Pix]

Jeffrey Lewis.

[winterversion]

Justin Vollmar.

hmm, interesting choice. I saw him perform for the first time last year opening for Antony and the Johnsons. It was paradoxically one of the most awful and most interesting performances I've probably seen.

[winterwooskie]

In what way was it awful, and interesting? I haven't seen him perform yet.

[TheSadDebaser]

Most definately Jeffrey Lewis. His performances are amazing. Much more than just music/band but in a lot of ways it's just really incredibly impressive.

[Moon Pix]

He is just so great live and his records are just so raw. Live shows- real great crowd interaction and a sense of humour. I have to thank that wise old man John Peel for airing a session by him. Thats how I first heard Jeff.

[winterversion]

In what way was it awful, and interesting? I haven't seen him perform yet.

If you haven't seen him live yet, it's hard to explain. It was just him playing what seemed to be random noise on his guitar while occasionally throwing in some unintelligible and bizzare lyrics in an awkwardly hushed and tone-deaf voice. Meanwhile, in a separate room and not visible to the audience, some other dude was belting out feedback and distortion on his guitar. All this, in combination with the fact that Vollmar looks like one of the most average, normal looking midwestern dudes I've ever seen, made for a very, uh......interesting show. The whole time I was thinking, "Boy, this is just terrible, but I can't stop watching."

[Keith]

I agree about Jefferey Lewis i have great momories of first hearing him on John Peel. I remember his live set on Peelies show it went on for ever! Like his versions of Part time Punks and the Morden Age too.

[winterwooskie]

If you haven't seen him live yet, it's hard to explain. It was just him playing what seemed to be random noise on his guitar while occasionally throwing in some unintelligible and bizzare lyrics in an awkwardly hushed and tone-deaf voice. Meanwhile, in a separate room and not visible to the audience, some other dude was belting out feedback and distortion on his guitar. All this, in combination with the fact that Vollmar looks like one of the most average, normal looking midwestern dudes I've ever seen, made for a very, uh......interesting show. The whole time I was thinking, "Boy, this is just terrible, but I can't stop watching."
I remember hearing about him and the person who runs Blue Sanct Records going on tour and doing a noise collaboration kind of thing, I'm wondering if it was that and not Justin Vollmar doing his solo thing.

[winterversion]

I remember hearing about him and the person who runs Blue Sanct Records going on tour and doing a noise collaboration kind of thing, I'm wondering if it was that and not Justin Vollmar doing his solo thing.
Could be. I saw him again opening for another local band called Odawas and he sounded different, with a full backing band and everything. I think he tends to be pretty eclectic, as far as live performances go.

[Keith]

I'd do him!(if i was that way incline) but is it him as a actor you find underratted or the mans cock?

[Moon Pix]

For actresses I would say Kathy Buerke and Sara Gilbert. For actors I would say Ken Stott and Ray Winstone.

[Keith]

I like Sara gilbert as a chioce she should be in more films. Another Sara Sarah Polly is under valued too i think. Can't agree about Ray Winstone.

[Moon Pix]

I like Sara gilbert as a chioce she should be in more films.

She's never in anything though. They're wasting her talent.:mad:

Can't agree about Ray Winstone.

Even though he does get a lot of exposure, I still think its not enough considering what he did in Nil By Mouth (and I think Kathy Buerke actually steals the show from him so go figure).:)

[Keith]

Your right Nil by mouth is a very hard hitting film, find the end a little depressing as i don't understand how the Ray Winstone charactor is just let back into the familys life as if northing ever happened. Very powerful and well performed though.

I suggest Caroline Thompson co-screen writer of Tim Burtons. Although Burton is such a uniqe film making he gets the attention he deserves whereas i think she should get so much more. I went to see the musical version of Edward Scissorhands last month, although it had problems espically in the first act it was just great to see that vison put on stage. There was some lovely ideas too, a good night out all in all.

[johansen smith]

Oh! Oh! Mark Wahlberg! Damn his cock is huge!
I would love to know who is still so obsessed with me that they'd make another fake account in my name.

[Miss Tasty Princess]

After some thought, I think I'll go with Dwight Twilley and Kim Salmon.

Sure, Dwight has had a couple of hit singles ("I'm on Fire" in 1975 and "Girls" several years later) but he's still releasing great music to this day and I never see anything in print or on-line about him.

Kim's work with the Scientists is well documented but his post-S career is widely ignored. Since the late-80s demise of that band, he's released six albums under the Kim Salmon & The Surrealists moniker, one as Kim Salmon & The Business, one as part of the group <antenna> (with Dave Faulkner of The Hoodoo Gurus), a few with the Beasts of Bourbon and two solo albums yet it's almost as if none of them ever existed. Most of them are already out of print and I'm not sure if I've ever seen even a review of any of them. He's also got a new album out with his country duo Darling Downs but I've yet to snag that one.

As for the guy from Gris Gris, they have, what?, two albums out? I'd say a bit more longevity is in order before declaring someone a "great of our time."

[Joel]

Kim Salmon totally rules, and I agree, he's totally underrated.

[otto midnight]

a lot of people are making a living doing what mick collins has been doing for over a decade now.

[Moon Pix]

Team Dresch.

[the greatest]

Joseph Arthur, definitively. I don't know why he can't really break through...

[pizzagratis]

Kim Salmon totally rules, and I agree, he's totally underrated.

but what about Kim Mitchell???????????

[Miss Tasty Princess]

but what about Kim Mitchell???????????Max Webster?

[Patrick]

The Neats, in their Ace Of Hearts / Propeller period.

Patrick

[pizzagratis]

Max Webster?

YES. That Kim Mitchell. Kim "I am a Wild Party" Mitchell.

For all you doubters:

http://www.kimmitchell.ca/img/albums/goforsoda.mp3

[Miss Tasty Princess]

The Neats, in their Ace Of Hearts / Propeller period.You'd pick them over Pastiche or Boy's Life?

[Moon Pix]

Claire Danes.

[whitesnake]

after listening to Moonhead the past couple days and thinking about Sack Full of Silver, In the Spanish Cave, Exploring the Axis, The Ruby Sea and The One That Got Away, i'd offer Thin White Rope

[pizzagratis]

after listening to Moonhead the past couple days and thinking about Sack Full of Silver, In the Spanish Cave, Exploring the Axis, The Ruby Sea and The One That Got Away, i'd offer Thin White Rope

and not Green on Red?

[Keith]

Hi MoonPix, i like Claire Danes too. She's been in some pretty poor films but her appearence in them always makes them more bearable. First saw her in Romo & Juilett and she was wonderful.

[Moon Pix]

Tony Shalhoub and Bitty Schram.:)

[Brushback]

mick collins.
Absolutely.

[Moon Pix]

Lou Barlow.

[Moon Pix]

Hi MoonPix, i like Claire Danes too. She's been in some pretty poor films but her appearence in them always makes them more bearable. First saw her in Romo & Juilett and she was wonderful.

Absolutely agree.:)

[dola]

i had a crush on Darlene Connor to the point that i became a fan of The Sandman because the bf David was CLEARLY one. Not quite the Malkmus' Thumb but a skeleton nonetheless.


Ross McElwee
Project Greenlight
Home Movies
Run On
and
Nirvana

[Moon Pix]

Dean & Gene Ween.:)

[tinobeat]

again, as with the David Byrne example, I wonder whether you people know what "underrated" means. Ween have an enormous following, and there's tons of dudes with huge boners over everything they touch.

Just cos your friends don't appreciate them like you do doesn't make them underrated.

[Moon Pix]

Just cos your friends don't appreciate them like you do doesn't make them underrated.

I guess thats it. My friends dont appreciate anything. Despite my gentle persuasion they still like Avril and blink and all of that crap.:(

[Paul]

I guess thats it. My friends dont appreciate anything. Despite my gentle persuasion they still like Avril and blink and all of that crap.:(I don't care what anyone says, but Blink 182's "The Rock Show" is a fucking great single!

[tinobeat]

well, that's why there's the internet! when your real friends are square, you can get even squarer and hang out with other nerds!

[Miss Tasty Princess]

again, as with the David Byrne example, I wonder whether you people know what "underrated" means. Ween have an enormous following, and there's tons of dudes with huge boners over everything they touch.I had on 99X (WNNX) in the car the other day (while changing CDs) and the voiceover tease ad thing said, "80s Rock from the Underground!" They followed that with "Wild Wild Life" by Talking Heads. :rolleyes:

Then again, I've also heard The Fall, Minutemen and the New York Dolls on that station (albeit years ago), so I guess I can't complain too much.

[Moon Pix]

White Hassle.

[Joel]

Did y'all know that the first film appearance by a precocious 15 year-old Clare Danes used songs from the Sun City Girls' Torch of the Mystics as the soundtrack?

[Moon Pix]

Peter Jefferies. Very important in my opinion not just for his actual music but the influence he has had on quiet lo-fi music.

[Keith]

MOONPIX Is on a roll it would seem. I haven't seen it yet but i can't beleave Claire Danes is made to look so silly as Steve Martains toy in Shop Girl(and ofcouse he wrote it) he deserves a SLAP!

I think Christian Bale although he got quite a lot of attention for Batman(which he was great in)

[Moon Pix]

I think Christian Bale although he got quite a lot of attention for Batman(which he was great in)

I think American Psycho was shite though, not necessarily him but the thing as a whole.

[Keith]

Have you read the book? I liked the film partly because it stuck very close to the noval which is a classic i think. Christian Bales performance in it is really good. At one point Brad Pitt was in line for the role and David Cronerberg to direct, that would have been interesting.

[Moon Pix]

The Heartless Bastards.

[Moon Pix]

Have you read the book?


I have. I thought it was alright but I wouldnt read it again.

[Keith]

It's a very tough read yes.

[Miss Tasty Princess]

Cole Marquis

He's led or co-led 28th Day (featuring future Matador alumna Barbara Manning), The Downsiders and Snowmen plus has released two excellent solo albums yet I never read/hear about him anywhere.

[Miss Tasty Princess]

Wreckless Eric

Since 1977 or so, Eric has released six albums, an EP and numerous singles under the Wreckless Eric name.

He's also released and album and single with Captains of Industry

Two albums and a single with The Len Bright Combo

An album and a single with The Hitsville House Band

And an EP under his Christian name, Eric Goulden

He's also written a book, A Dysfunctional Success, which can be purchased direct from him or through Amazon.com. I've got it but haven't read it yet; however, he read a short excerpt when I saw him last month and it was well-written and quite funny.

All of the above have been wonderful, yet 30 years on he's still an opening act a good deal of the time. Life's not fair.

He's also done some recording with Clay Harper and The Ottoman Empire (featuring murdered journalist Daniel Pearl) but I've not heard that stuff . . . yet.

Eric's very entertaining website: www.WrecklessEric.com

Odd Trivia: His first single, "Whole Wide World," was covered by The Monkees on their Pool It! album.

[Moon Pix]

Dylan Moran. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLuesNFvtrU&search=dylan%20moran)

I do believe though that his time will come soon. He deserves more exposure. :)

[Fiona]

Dylan Moran. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLuesNFvtrU&search=dylan%20moran)

I do believe though that his time will come soon. He deserves more exposure. :)

Dylan Moran, who won the Perrier Award in Edinburgh '96, created, writes and co-stars in hit tv series "Black Books", played the lead in BBC2's "How Do You Want Me?", had a lead role in Michael Winterbottom's "A Cock and Bull Story" and has written for The Irish Times? I suppose his time has yet to come. Wouldn't mind him getting more exposure though *cough*.

[Moon Pix]

Dylan Moran, who won the Perrier Award in Edinburgh '96, created, writes and co-stars in hit tv series "Black Books", played the lead in BBC2's "How Do You Want Me?", had a lead role in Michael Winterbottom's "A Cock and Bull Story" and has written for The Irish Times? I suppose his time has yet to come. Wouldn't mind him getting more exposure though *cough*.

I think for his standup though he is underexposed. People who don't follow comedy wouldnt know he won the Perrier Award. I think he deserves some more as a standup performer.

[Keith]

A good coice i think. Didn't know he was in a Cock and Bull Story but really love him in Black Books and pay to see him in stand up mold can't say that for sure about many.

A few more for you
Brian Cox(Undervalued Walsh Actor)
Mark Kermode(Genious Film Critic)
Stately Wayne Manor(if you don't know who this guy is shame on you)

[Moon Pix]

Paul Schaffer for being one of the few people in TV responsible for music related decisions to have a combination of power and good taste.

[LaLaLoo]

i could list off a bunch of overrated artists, too. lol


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[Moon Pix]

Smoke. Benjamin Smoke. Opal Foxx Quartet. Whatever you want to call that collective of Atlanta musicians.

Did anybody ever see them live?

[Joseph]

I'm gonna have to say Fieldy from KoRn. That guy is mega-talented!!!