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Coolfer says they're leaving for Interscope. (http://www.coolfer.com/blog/archives/2006/03/ar_bloggery_int.php) Anyone want to deny or confirm?
Kid B
03-21-2006, 03:35 PM
Yeah I think they're ready to move on up. I like Interpol a lot, I think they deserve the expanded exposure and the major label budgets.
I have no clue if it's really true or not though. Seems like no one else does either.
Patrick
03-21-2006, 09:12 PM
Expanded budget my ass.
Patrick
Lukas
03-21-2006, 09:34 PM
As good as a band like Interpol is, I think they would really get messed up with the majors. Same case for Cat Power
TheSadDebaser
03-21-2006, 09:56 PM
This was a pretty obvious move. It's not like they're a punk or indie band or anything like that. They're careerists. Everytime I hear press about them I get the impression they're assholes.
And they're pretty banal. In a few years they'll be a novelty band.
Also, I'm not sure if that was actually you who responded to that comment, but I don't think the guy who made the comment was saying you don't make bands popular, or dont' have popular bands, but you don't sign lots of new artists. I have no idea where he was coming from with Sub Pop. Didn't they put out Iron & Wine? Ick.
Yeah, Coolfer's post didn't have any responses when I linked to it this morning, so I have no idea who that Derek Sunshine guy is. Patrick got in his grill and told him what for, though!
Sorry if this offends, but I don't think the guy in the comments is totally off base. Belle & Sebastian, Cat Power, and Mogwai have been around since the 90's, and the NP's and PGMG were hardly unknown when Matador signed them. With the exception of Interpol, there really haven't been any "breakthrough new acts". I'm assuming "breakthrough" means selling a shitload of records, and while the Dead Meadow, Double, and Early Man records are all great (and better than Interpol by leaps and bounds, in my opinion), I wouldn't guess that you're swimming in cash from their sales. Then again, I have no idea what the actual sales figures are, and don't listen to the radio or have cable/MTV, so what the hell do I know.
As for Sub Pop, could he mean the Shins? That happened before Interpol so I don't know where he's going with that. Wolf Parade? Did the Helio Sequence blow up while I wasn't paying attention?
On another note, how many bands in Matador history have left for a major? I can only think of two. Spoon and Liz Phair. Thought that was a surprisingly low number.
johansen smith
03-22-2006, 01:30 AM
Sub Pop has the Shins and Postal Service.
bitterfruit
03-22-2006, 01:36 AM
Yeah I think they're ready to move on up. I like Interpol a lot, I think they deserve the expanded exposure and the major label budgets.
It's not as if Interpol has been lacking in the exposure department IMO.
Yeah, I can't think of any other indie bands who managed to have an actual song of their played on Friends, a show notorious for using (bad) original music.
johansen smith
03-22-2006, 01:40 AM
yah they've only hit Target megastores, finish this thought with recognition of the pun or something.
Kid B
03-22-2006, 01:48 AM
It's not as if Interpol has been lacking in the exposure department IMO.
Yeah, that's actually a good point. I've even seen Interpol on Mtv. Perhaps I didn't think that statement through.
george
03-22-2006, 10:45 AM
Yeah, Coolfer's post didn't have any responses when I linked to it this morning, so I have no idea who that Derek Sunshine guy is. Patrick got in his grill and told him what for, though!
you don't tell someone what for, you give them what for.
i agree about no lack in exposure. i'd be surprised if signing to a major had a huge impact at this point in interpol's trajectory. if they did bolt, i'd guess they got a sweet deal.
Thanks for keeping it real, george.
Keith
03-22-2006, 12:01 PM
How is it their fault they had a song used on friends? Maybe it was used without their promission, ever if Interpol were asked and said ok you can't blame them for taking the money does not mean they like friends.
It maybe true that the band have had lot of exposure but the fact is they deserve it. Interpol are a great band who do things their own way. Going back to the money issure i'm sure compared to a lot of other bands they don't have a great deal of money. At this point the record sales(in the case of the LP's at least) are pretty low and yes it's a good thing for them to get more exposure on a bigger label. It's all true what has been said about other bands like Belle & Sebastian and Cat Power, PGMG and the like(i think Belle & Sebastian had broken though anyway) however as long as the artest's in question are good and deserve it i for one can't complain.
On the other hand there are a number of examples of bands getting a big record label deal and not deserving it. FF, Editors for starters.
yah they've only hit Target megastores, finish this thought with recognition of the pun or something.
I love the way you put me in the big house? I'm stumped.
Keith, I'd hate to put words in Paul's mouth but I don't think he was begrudging Interpol popping up on Friends. I'm assuming that it was a point made to counter the assertion that they don't get much exposure through Matador. It's not like they, say, wrote a song specifically about how the popularity of Friends might not bode well for our future, and then wound up soundtracking some Central Perk scene. I'm looking your way, Modest Mouse. (http://matadorbb.bway.net/showthread.php?t=1009&highlight=modest+mouse)
Keith
03-22-2006, 12:39 PM
ok you could be right.
bitterfruit
03-22-2006, 12:41 PM
On the other hand there are a number of examples of bands getting a big record label deal and not deserving it. FF, Editors for starters.
Give me one complete sentence without a run-on to describe why FF and the Editors don't "deserve" a big record deal. I'm just curious as to your rational.
I think it's funny that people feel free to make sweeping judgments about whether a band has "broken through" or not based on nothing more than whether they personally have heard about that band.
The thought process must go something like this:
I know nothing about the sales figure on the band's album.
I know little to nothing about the radio play.
I know absolutely nothing about what kind of deal the band has--are they turning a profit at 5000 albums, or are they still unrecouped at 50000? I have no clue, and don't care, BECAUSE:
A bunch of my friends know all about the band, and maybe I've read a few articles on them in magazines that circulate about as many copies as my alternative weekly, so they OBVIOUSLY have broken through.
That's real classical logic there, let me tell you.
To say nothing about how terms like "broken through," and "blow-up" are pretty much the label guy equivalent of bullshit producer-speak. As near meaningless as the English language gets.
A little bit of indie music blood in the water, and everyone turns into a backseat marketing expert.
How is it their fault they had a song used on friends? Maybe it was used without their promission...
highly bloody unlikely.
...the artest's in question are good and deserve it i for one can't complain.
despite Gerard's love of the NBA, I doubt Matador will sign Ron Artest for his rap skills anytime soon.
Keith, I'd hate to put words in Paul's mouth but I don't think he was begrudging Interpol popping up on Friends. I'm assuming that it was a point made to counter the assertion that they don't get much exposure through Matador. It's not like they, say, wrote a song specifically about how the popularity of Friends might not bode well for our future, and then wound up soundtracking some Central Perk scene. I'm looking your way, Modest Mouse. (http://matadorbb.bway.net/showthread.php?t=1009&highlight=modest+mouse)Nope, you got it right. That's exactly what I was saying.
I think with bands who initially became popular through underground and internet chatter, whether they're on indie or major labels, the potential for popularity is pretty equalized. An mp3 from Interscope will sound just as good as an mp3 from Matador, and both records can be bought on Amazon or at any big box brick & mortar retailer.
The only reason majors even still exist in their traditional form is because the industry hasn't had time to fully collapse and then restructure itself yet. It won't be long before the need for major labels will be marginalized altogether (with the exception of pure pop teen acts, who are simply there to generate capital for the rest of the label's operations). I mean, thanks to [artist x] (whoever Interscope's cash cow is at the moment), Interpol will get some hefty tour support... play more shows, fill bigger venues, and perhaps even sell enough to recoup recording expenses.
Interpol will get some hefty tour support... play more shows, fill bigger venues, and perhaps even sell enough to recoup recording expenses.
okay, maybe they'll get more touring cash, but will they be playing more venues or larger shows? i got the impression that they were touring worldwide to very large audiences. i mean, they did two consecuitve nights at radio city here. where do they go next? madison sq. garden? i like 'em and all, but i don't see that happening.
<edit> they opened for U2, right?
johansen smith
03-22-2006, 02:03 PM
let's all hope that thanks to this major label deal they can record an album as crucial as Death Cab For Cutie's Plans.
Susan Kirk
03-22-2006, 02:46 PM
My good pals are VERY huge indie rawk band, and guess what? Their music popped up on TWO DIFFERENT TV SHOWS WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION. It happens, and it sucks.
johansen smith
03-22-2006, 02:49 PM
Pas/Cal said that by selling one of their songs to a commerical they were able to pay to record their next year's output, so it's not always looked down upon.
Dear Joel...
My good pals are VERY huge indie rawk band, and guess what? Their music popped up on TWO DIFFERENT TV SHOWS WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION. It happens, and it sucks.
so why didn't they sue? Or is it that they don't own the rights to their songs?
I think it's funny that people feel free to make sweeping judgments about whether a band has "broken through" or not based on nothing more than whether they personally have heard about that band.
The thought process must go something like this:
I know nothing about the sales figure on the band's album.
I know little to nothing about the radio play.
I know absolutely nothing about what kind of deal the band has--are they turning a profit at 5000 albums, or are they still unrecouped at 50000? I have no clue, and don't care, BECAUSE:
A bunch of my friends know all about the band, and maybe I've read a few articles on them in magazines that circulate about as many copies as my alternative weekly, so they OBVIOUSLY have broken through.
That's real classical logic there, let me tell you.
To say nothing about how terms like "broken through," and "blow-up" are pretty much the label guy equivalent of bullshit producer-speak. As near meaningless as the English language gets.
A little bit of indie music blood in the water, and everyone turns into a backseat marketing expert.
“Breakthrough” is the other guy’s word, not mine, and I agree with you that it’s meaningless. And you’re right that without sales/radio info, I’m not qualified to make “sweeping judgments” about how much exposure a band is getting and how well it’s working (I don’t think my post was all that sweeping, but okay, maybe it was). But do I really need sales figures to know that Dead Meadow, the Double, and Early Man aren’t getting nearly the attention that Interpol, the Shins, and Arcade Fire are/were getting? Yeah, I’m basing this on personal experience, but I exist in the world just like everyone else. I see the same TV shows, movies, magazines, etc. I’m on the same internet as you. And I’m fairly certain that my experience of hearing “New Slang” at the supermarket, barber shop, and local bar isn’t unique. Same goes for my experience of not hearing “Idiocy” anywhere other than my house.
I’ll also go out on a limb here and say that, while I don’t have the sales numbers, Pavement was not quite as “breakthrough” as the Beatles. I think this is true, because I know people who haven’t heard of Pavement.
And nice work figuring out how my brain works. I had no idea I was so simple, and there were others like me. What I appreciate most is that you did it in such a nonsweeping and nonjudgmental way.
bitterfruit
03-22-2006, 09:58 PM
Rumor of Interpol leaving is making the online press. (http://www.mp3.com/news/stories/3795.html)
Your link is to the MLB 2K6 story.
Edit: Nevermind. Didn't read it carefully enough.
johansen smith
03-22-2006, 11:42 PM
Interpol will almost certainly play the same venues they do now.
Keith
03-23-2006, 11:32 AM
Death Cab for Curtie are a good band but very different to Interpol i would listern to them and get something else than i do from Interpol. Different bands give you different things that's the way it should be. Are you sure a Interpol track was used on friends? for starters it doesn't sound like the sort of music they played on friends.
I think at the begaining Franz signed on a small and Inderpendent label but a lot of money and press hype was put behind them and it was clear because of how it works that they would become big. They seem like nice and down to eath guys, but as a band they don't deserve the secess. And they've certainly played the game to make money too. The best thing you can say is they write catching tunes. But they still leave me cold as it's all very showing and flashy and there's no Substance to it.
As for the Editors we've covered them in some depth and so let's leave it alone.
johansen smith
03-23-2006, 11:39 AM
Death Cab for Curtie are a good band but very different to Interpol i would listern to them and get something else than i do from Interpol.
I was being facetious.
Keith
03-23-2006, 11:41 AM
Well that doesn't suit you sir! So you don't really like DCFC?
johansen smith
03-23-2006, 11:43 AM
Well that doesn't suit you sir! So you don't really like DCFC?
I like Something About Airplanes and We Have the Facts a lot, but everything from Photo Album on is unlistenable.
On another note, how many bands in Matador history have left for a major? I can only think of two. Spoon and Liz Phair. Thought that was a surprisingly low number.
According to Liz Phair she didn't leave for a major:
(from HARP (http://harpmagazine.com/articles/detail.cfm?article_id=3548))
PHAIR: Matador didn't treat me any better than Capitol did. I wouldn't even be on a major label if they hadn't sold me to a major-twice. That's the truth. But I don't have any bad feelings toward Matador or toward Capitol. The only bad feeling I have toward people are the ones who have gone after me for no particular reason.
Kid B
03-23-2006, 03:40 PM
unlistenable.
You throw that word around a lot, come on, Death Cab may be complete emo cheese filler but it's not like you contemplate suicide when you listen to them.........okay, bad example, it's not like your eardrums are going to explode.
Are you sure a Interpol track was used on friends? for starters it doesn't sound like the sort of music they played on friends.As a fan of Friends and having heard the first Interpol record several times too many, would you like me to tell you exactly which episode and scene they used "Untitled" in?
johansen smith
03-23-2006, 10:55 PM
Ed once used Loose Fur and Yo La Tengo during crucial scenes.
i could've sworn i heard fugazi's 'waiting room' on some nbc x-games (or some other such extreme sportscast) once. i know, i know: preposterous.
anagrama
03-24-2006, 11:11 AM
Interpol signing to a major seems like a fairly.........unnecessary move.
Matador to me, did a better job of promoting Antics then I've seem on any record from the label. The album got into plenty of stores, and it got lots of exposure.
Elijah
03-24-2006, 06:11 PM
How is it their fault they had a song used on friends? Maybe it was used without their promission, ever if Interpol were asked and said ok you can't blame them for taking the money does not mean they like friends.
It maybe true that the band have had lot of exposure but the fact is they deserve it. Interpol are a great band who do things their own way. Going back to the money issure i'm sure compared to a lot of other bands they don't have a great deal of money. At this point the record sales(in the case of the LP's at least) are pretty low and yes it's a good thing for them to get more exposure on a bigger label. It's all true what has been said about other bands like Belle & Sebastian and Cat Power, PGMG and the like(i think Belle & Sebastian had broken though anyway) however as long as the artest's in question are good and deserve it i for one can't complain.
On the other hand there are a number of examples of bands getting a big record label deal and not deserving it. FF, Editors for starters.
I hate to be a dick, but...
www.grammarstation.com
I hate to be a dick, but...
www.grammarstation.com
the keith posts are growing on me. like a new dialect or something. all sorts of ways to interpret them.
Kid B
03-24-2006, 10:08 PM
Keith draws outside the lines. An outlaw, that one.
and I get the feeling that you may not have minded being a dick too much. but maybe i'll just reference your avatar instead.
Elijah
03-25-2006, 12:08 AM
Keith draws outside the lines. An outlaw, that one.
and I get the feeling that you may not have minded being a dick too much. but maybe i'll just reference your avatar instead.
Yeah, you're right.
http://www.zeal.com/guidelines/style/site_titledesc/titling.jhtml
Keith
03-25-2006, 10:39 AM
I didn't think that post was too bad. But on the other hand i don't read this board like it should be a essay or a letter. It's Bulletin Board people are supposed to have fun! By the way shouldn't fans of Friends be kicked off for bad taste?
Futureman
03-25-2006, 11:48 AM
By the way shouldn't fans of Friends be kicked off for bad taste?
I, too, was shocked that Paul admitted to liking Friends. Perhaps this was a confession? In any case, at least we have a little dirt on the guy.
Yeah guys, a billion other people and I like Friends. We must be the weird ones.
Miss Tasty Princess
03-25-2006, 01:46 PM
I watched Friends once. That was enough.
People who tend to be down on tv viewing in general ("I don't watch tv... ever! What? You do? How embarrassing for you!" followed by a dismissive eye roll) nearly always cite the show Friends as an example of why tv isn't entertaining, provocative or worth watching. I watch enough tv to know there are plenty of shows out there that aren't the least bit entertaining, provocative or worth watching, but I cannot understand how a show like Friends wound up becoming the exemplar of "mind-rotting television." It remained funny, often hilarious, throughout its entire run and, through character development, may only rival Seinfeld or The Mary Tyler Moore Show as the best ensemble cast in broadly-appealing sitcom history.
I refuse to have my intellectual worth marginalized by admitting I like to watch sitcoms and, particularly, Friends. Fuck you, egalitarian pigdogs!
Lukas
03-25-2006, 03:05 PM
I enjoyed Friends, but wasn't really that much of fan. There were some amazingly funny moments though.
I am a big O.C head for those of you who care.
Miss Tasty Princess
03-25-2006, 03:22 PM
I dig a lot of sitcoms but something about Friends just rubbed me wrong.
Yeah, that diatribe wasn't aimed directly at anyone here, but at the general perception among anti-tv bullies that Friends single-handedly brought about a cultural downfall.
Lukas
03-25-2006, 03:31 PM
diatribe
Isn't that a verbal attack?
earl grey
03-25-2006, 03:38 PM
count me as a 'friends' backer too. i never watched it a ton but always enjoyed it. i never understood all the hate, i thought it was pretty well-written and well-crafted for what it was.
april fools is still a week away, fellas.
1995-1996. Banner years for indepentent rock and Must-See TV. Coincidence?
8:00 Friends
8:30 The Single Guy
9:00 Seinfeld
9:30 Caroline In The City
10:00 ER
Who can touch that line-up now? The Single Guy was a schlub with a Threepenny Opera poster in his apartment and Lea Thompson was the definition of "wife-material." Come on!
Kid B
03-26-2006, 01:00 AM
Friends can be pretty funny. Ross is hilarious he's such a dork! Season 3 and 4 were probally the best. I watch cartoons a lot, if I want to see real life I can go outside; I like the stupid silliness and fantasy it helps me get away. Or maybe that's just cause I'm usually smoking a bowl if I'm watching T.V. I watch way too much anime too.
johansen smith
03-26-2006, 01:04 AM
Ross is the only actual character on the show. I don't care for Friends, but Paul's alright in my book for liking Ed.
...but Paul's alright in my book for liking Ed.Speaking of, it wasn't until I watched Walk the Line the second time that I realized the girl who played Diane on Ed is playing Cash's first wife in the film (and is subsequently on the new Bill Paxton polygamy show on HBO).
johansen smith
03-26-2006, 01:26 AM
yeah, a lot of Ed castmembers (Justin Long and Goodwin have movie careers; Bowen, Cavanagh, Lloyd, and Randall are all in new TV series [roles]) are having a good second life. by the way, I just saw the actor who played Dr. Walter Jerome in Woody Allen's Zelig.
On another note, how many bands in Matador history have left for a major? I can only think of two. Spoon and Liz Phair. Thought that was a surprisingly low number.
Teenage Fanclub. Arab Strap (in the UK). GbV (sorta). Belle & Sebastian and the Blues Explosion (maybe; is Sanctuary a fake major? It's EMI here in Canada. A label build on Iron Maiden royalties deserves to be considered a major)
yeah, a lot of Ed castmembers (Justin Long and Goodwin have movie careers; Bowen, Cavanagh, Lloyd, and Randall are all in new TV series [roles]) are having a good second life. by the way, I just saw the actor who played Dr. Walter Jerome in Woody Allen's Zelig.Is Lovemonkey still on? I haven't seen a single episode.
Is Lovemonkey still on? I haven't seen a single episode.
It got axed after three episodes. I saw something the other day saying Tom had just signed for a new pilot. Keep your fingers crossed.
"Cavanagh Not 'Monkey'-ing Around
LOS ANGELES -- Tom Cavanagh apparently doesn't have any hard feelings toward CBS.
Cavanagh, who starred in the very short-lived "Love Monkey" on the network earlier this season, is back in business at CBS. He's signed on to star in a comedy pilot called "My Ex-Life," the showbiz trade papers report.
"My Ex-Life" is a comedy about a divorced couple who remain friends and share custody of their kids. Cavanagh, whose credits also include "Ed" and a recurring part on "Scrubs," will play the lead role of Nick. It's a quick bounce-back for the actor after "Love Monkey," which debuted in January and was yanked after just three episodes."
"(Los Angeles, CA) - Title: MY EX LIFE, TV Pilot - 1/2 Hour for CBS. EXEC PROD/WRTR, Rich Appel. Shoot Dates: April 11, 2006 (in Los Angeles [TV Pilot] & New York [TV Series]). Breakdown-- Kate: Mid 30s, attractive, bright, energetic, enthusiastic, a successful urban planner and a bit of an overachiever, Kate is Nick's ex-wife, mother of their two children. A good, caring, well-meaning woman, Kate has a tendency to over-analyze and over-extend herself - in everything. She, too, would like to start dating again, but learns very quickly that having children is a liability for a dating woman. Series Regular; Johnny: Mid 30s. He is the good looking co-owner and chef at an upscale cafe. (His ex-wife is his business partner). Terrific in the kitchen, Johnny's cooking certainly brings in the crowds, much to the begrudging irritation of ex-wife, Samantha. Now Nick's roommate, Johnny and his ex share joint custody of their two beautiful Labradors, lavishing the dogs with affection and treats - all in an effort to outdo each other and win their pets' devotion. Sexually confident; needs a lot of attention, especially from the women in his life; hides his insecurities well, but they're there. Series Regular; Samantha: Mid 30s. She is Johnny's ex-wife, Kate's best friend. Co-owner of an upscale cafe, she knows that Johnny's wonderful cooking does indeed keep the restaurant busy. She is equally crazy about their Labrador dogs, of whom they share joint custody. She, too, is guilty of spoiling the dogs with rich treats and, like Johnny, is guilty of using the dogs as an excuse to keep their drama going. She is worried that maybe she should be married with kids, but doesn't really want to be married, and doesn't really want kids; also always worried that maybe Johnny was prettier than her. Her intelligence and wit mask her insecurities. Has trouble trusting men. Series Regular; Gus: 20-25, confident. He has his finger in lots of different pies. Gus is Nick's former college student and part time babysitter for Nick and Kate's two children. He is now able to teach his old teacher a few things about the dating world of 2005. Energetic and confident, he gives Kate some sage advice regarding an outfit she's considering wearing on a date. Series Regular; Buster: 8-11. He is Nick and Kate's sweet, but sometimes manipulative son. Series Regular; Olivia: 5-8. She is Nick and Kate's adorable daughter. She, too, sometimes plays one parent against the other. Series Regular. (Posted: March 14, 2006 "
I'll keep my fingers crossed, but that doesn't look terribly promising.
Lukas
03-28-2006, 06:36 PM
love monkey was my favorite show when it was running. really blows
Keith
03-29-2006, 09:30 AM
It was meant as a joke although i can't beleave Paul's a friend's fan. It's 100% unfunny i guess a lot of people watch it out of habbit. Seinfield should not be on the list meaning it's in a different league as friends. Must of the good stuff as of late has come from the UK, but Seinfield was classic and timeless. Who would've thought a debate on Interpol would lead to this?
Elijah
03-29-2006, 03:06 PM
love monkey was my favorite show when it was running. really blowsI thought some parts of Love Monkey were really good, but other parts of it looked like they were trying a bit too hard to make it into a male version of Sex and the City. The scenes with the four guy friends talking to each other about their relationships were just horrible. They looked as if they'd been written in after the fact at the behest of someone who had neglected to read the rest of the script.
tinobeat
03-29-2006, 09:59 PM
Whatever d00ds, Friends lasted as long as it did because its a really great show. Strong cast, strong writing, and an energy and range that most sitcoms dream of. I'm a fan, and I don't give a fuck what you nerds have to say about it.
booyah!
its nice to be back home! This thread got huge in a week. I think it'd be silly for Interscope to go to a major, but if that's what they want, then god bless. Matador really did go balls deep in promoting them, and were a raging success in doing so. I highly doubt they'd get as much support being a smaller fish in a bigger tank, though.
pabost
03-29-2006, 11:25 PM
I think it'd be silly for Interscope to go to a major, but if that's what they want, then god bless.
Was this intentional? Either way, I like it.
tinobeat
03-29-2006, 11:32 PM
nope, total typo.. doh!
bitterfruit
03-30-2006, 12:11 PM
"Blatant rumor." Hah! Love it.
Gerard
04-03-2006, 12:05 AM
I guess I'm gonna grown even older waiting for Mr. Coolfer to reveal his source. The band have denied it (so far), Interscope have announced zilch, yet Coolfer seems to be strangely rooting for it to happen. Which I totally don't get. I'm even more baffled why such a thing would be announced when it couldn't possibly be confirmed by anyone --- what possible stake could there be in being first with an bogus stoyr?
First step in taking future Matador bands to the mythical next level --- much more advertising on Coolfer.
Anyhow, just because something is repeated enough times doesn't make it true.
for those still keeping score, "Friends" used Interpol's music with permission and they paid for it. 99.9% of the time, such uses are authorized and bands signed off on it, though I am aware of exceptions (there are fewer these days than there used to be).
If you watch a ton of TV and listen to enough music where you could ID more than a couple of bands, such instances are probably less surprising than they used to be.
re : Bands leaving Matador for majors. Dr. Funk probably mentioned Teenage Fanclub but I'm too tired to go back and check.
GC
re : Bands leaving Matador for majors. Dr. Funk probably mentioned Teenage Fanclub but I'm too tired to go back and check.
I did, but I forgot Modest Mouse. Boy did they ever explode once they ditched Matador Europe.
Gerard
04-03-2006, 06:17 PM
Indeed they did! Ditching Matador Europe is clearly an important step in becoming global superstars...but one that cannot be accomplished without first signing and/or licensing several recordings to the label. I'm keeping this in mind for future pitches...
Keith
04-10-2006, 12:39 PM
I can't go along with this silly thory that Friends must be good because so many people like it. If you say that you might as well beleave Star Wars is one of the greatest Movies ever made and that the SpiceGirls or such groups are great too. It hardy ever works out in life that the Films, Books, music etc which is the poper is actally that good.
As for the cast their all pretty limited to what they can do most have struggled making it in films and much of their film works had been poor. It's fair to say they all have thier places and can be used in certain roles. For Example Corntney Cox has made the Gail Weathers part in Scream her own you couldn't really see anyone else playing it. David Swimmer does deadpan quite well(which he has shown in small movies) the most talented for me Lisa Kidrow he has shown a great since comic timing and is beleavable in a number of different parts. As for the ex Mrs Brad Pitt she is never going to be the next Juila Roberts as she so despatley wants to be the only film she's been in which i remotely liked was Rock Star. Friends isn't the worse progmme around and i wouldn't lie and say i've never larghed but it's still pretty terrible.
tinobeat
04-10-2006, 01:36 PM
I didn't say Friends is good BECAUSE so many people like it. I said that its success isn't surprising BECAUSE its good, and easy to get involved in. there's a not-subtle difference there. let me know if you don't understand that, though.
I generally hate sitcoms because they're awkward setups for gags that don't run together well. Certain sitcoms (Cheers, Seinfeld, Friends, etc.) developed a comfort zone fast where the cast alone interacted well enough that it doesn't come across as a series of gags, but just engaging and funny situations.
Tino makes some great points. Sitcoms like Friends, Cheers, Seinfeld and a small group of others really did something greater with the genre's inherent limitations.
Also, I like the Spice Girls.
Furthermore, I think Star Wars is pretty great. But that's mostly tied up in the fact I've had an association with it since I was a little kid. If you were born too long before or after it came out, you probably can't romanticize it in ways I can. Technically, it's not a good movie at all. But candy bars aren't good for you either.
Keith
04-18-2006, 09:16 AM
It's not completly useless, the Empile Strkes back was the best by far. It was far more darker and ofcouse had the big twist at the end. Starwars was ok as the first film, but very over ratted. Return of the Judi was rubbish and the recent one's have been awful for what i can tell. I was just useing examples. I take it the SpiceGirls thing was a joke. For the record i was more a All Saints fan.
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