High On Fire vs Early Man

[sonicyouthyumyu]

Just saw High On Fire - I think there's a dude from the Melvins....now that's a band worth consideration. Makes an Early Man fan proud....

[Miss Tasty Princess]

Joe Preston, formerly of Melvins, left High on Fire a short while ago. The current bass player is on loan from (or is formerly of?) Zeke. Leader Matt Pike was previously in Sleep.

High on Fire are pretty damn great, IMO. I'm hoping to catch them for the fourth time on Friday, if I can get there in time after I go see Die! Die! Die! open for Wolfmother (unimpressed by what I've heard so no need to stay) at a different club across town.

[Paul]

In Atlanta traffic? Good luck to you, sir!

[Futureman]

Leader Matt Pike was previously in Sleep.

Always wanted to check out that 63+ minute track from the Dopesmoker album.

What say ye, Mr. HCI?

[vesper]

if we're to take the topic line as a real challenge, then (and i apologize for doing this on matador) high on fire by leagues.

[Futureman]

if we're to take the topic line as a real challenge, then (and i apologize for doing this on matador) high on fire by leagues.

No doubt. I'm listening to "Surrounded by Thieves" as I write. This shit shreds.

[Miss Tasty Princess]

Always wanted to check out that 63+ minute track from the Dopesmoker album.

What say ye, Mr. HCI?I say I prefer "Lysol" by Melvins. Seriously, though (not that I wasn't, mind you), it's worth it if you find it used but I think HoF are the superior band. Sleep are just too derivative for me to spin very often.

[SirPatrickSpens]

don't believe HCI, in this case. Sleep & HOF are different animals, both great. i'm too beat to give you the link but google Julian Cope Dopesmoker & get his brilliant take on that Sleep masterpiece... which is so heavy & over the top, i think it's the only metal side Morton Feldman and AMM fans also love... if the schlock of Early Man (& Maiden, sorry) is more your meat, you might not dig but I personally love it, along w/Electric Wizard "Dopethrone" (& Ramesees.) (i'm also into the one Om record, which is Sleep without Matt.)

hey, maybe Joe can rejoin the Melvins! (just got an advance of "Houdini Live," w/Trevor Dunn on bass & there's some Melvins <---> Big Business merger in the works too.)

will now make coffee & listen to Boris "Heavy Rocks,"*

sps

ok--

julian dopesmoker review (http://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/albumofthemonth/1058)

* "Pink" should be out domestic any day now, si? i couldn't wait & bought the import.

[Miss Tasty Princess]

They're most definitely different animals; I just find HoF much more interesting. I've heard the first Om album and I definitely need to get it (new one is out now or soon or something).

BTW, I saw HoF last night for the fifth time, not fourth (please forgive my previous error) and they totally f'in' slayed. The other bands, eh, I could have easily done without. Watch Them Die were so bad they drove me outside to read a really bad free weekly whereas Goatwhore had some decent riffs but I don't enjoy being chastised by the singer for not moving when they've not given me cause to move, you know?

The Wolfmother show sold out in advance (WTF???) so I didn't get to see Die! Die! Die! but HoF were so great that, in the end, I was still a happy, little bunny.

For the record, I love AMM.

[dwight fry]

"Lysol" and "Dopesmoker" are both excellent choices. For MELVINS, I would take "Ozma" above all others, however. SLEEP's "Holy Mountain" in my opinion is the place to pick up the gauntlet for any apprentice seeking to study stoner rock, provided one has the Sabs catalog, etc.

I only heard the latest WOLFMOTHER ep a couple of times, but it sounded to me like they had studied PURPLE's "In Rock" and ZEP's "IV" and come up with some kind of synthesized modern take on both. I enjoyed it immensely!

[Miss Tasty Princess]

"Lysol" and "Dopesmoker" are both excellent choices. For MELVINS, I would take "Ozma" above all others, however. SLEEP's "Holy Mountain" in my opinion is the place to pick up the gauntlet for any apprentice seeking to study stoner rock, provided one has the Sabs catalog, etc.Stag is my fave Melvins disc but I like it best when they mix the heavy with the f'd up.

I'd read/heard raves about Holy Mountain for years before finally picking it up, long after I'd gotten Volume 1 and Jerusalem and the High on Fire stuff and I hated it so much I listened to it once and filed it away. I need to give it another spin but it was such a Sabbath-rip without adding much new, to my ears, that it actually made me angry while I was listening . . . and wishing it would end.

As for Wolfmother, the tiny bit I've heard sounded like fairly generic stoner rock that critics and hipsters would have pissed all over a few years ago, rather than pissing all over themselves as they're doing now.

[dwight fry]

Curious that you found "Holy Mountain" to be that much of a Sabs rip, but were fine with "Vol 1".

[Miss Tasty Princess]

I've never been crazy about Vol 1, either.

[Miss Tasty Princess]

IMPORTANT UPDATE!

I've listened to both Volume 1 and Holy Mountain recently and still find HM to be annoyingly derivative. V1, on the other hand, I enjoyed moreso than I remember in the past.

Of course, it's moot to post in this forum since Early Man have now signed with The End Records but what the heck.